Comparing Skylake-S and Skylake-X/SP Performance Clock-for-Clock

If you’ve read through the full review up to this point (and kudos), there should be three things that stick in the back of your mind about the new Skylake-SP cores: Cache, Mesh and AVX512. These are the three main features that separate the consumer grade Skylake-S core from this new core, and all three can have an impact in clock-for-clock performance. Even though the Skylake-S and the Skylake-SP are not competing in the same markets, it is still poignant to gather how much the changes affect the regular benchmark suite.

For this test, we took the Skylake-S based Core i5-6600 and the Skylake-SP based Core i9-7900X and ran them both with only 4 cores, no hyperthreading, and 3 GHz on all cores with no Turbo active. Both CPUs were run in high performance modes in the OS to restrict any time-to-idle, so it is worth noting here that we are not measuring power. This is just raw throughput.

Both of these cores support different DRAM frequencies, however: the i5-6600 lists DDR4-2133 as its maximum supported frequency, whereas the i9-7900X will run at DDR4-2400 at 2DPC. I queried a few colleagues as to what I should do here – technically the memory support is an extended element of the microarchitecture, and the caches/uncore/untile will be running at different frequencies, so how much of the system support should be chipped away for parity. The general consensus was to test with the supported frequencies, given this is how the parts ship.

For this analysis, each test was broken down in two ways: what sort of benchmark (single thread, multi-thread, mixed) and what category of benchmark (web, office, encode).

 

For the single threaded tests, results were generally positive. Kraken enjoyed the L2, and Dolphin emulation had a good gain as well. The legacy tests did not fair that great: 3DPM v1 has false sharing, which is likely taking a hit due to the increased L2 latency.

On the multithreaded tests, the big winner here was Corona. Corona is a high-performance renderer for Autodesk 3ds Max, showing that the larger L2 does a good job with its code base. The step back was in Handbrake – our testing does not implement any AVX512 code, but the L3 victim cache might be at play here over the L3 inclusive cache in SKL-S.

The mixed results are surprising: these tests vary with ST and MT parts to their computation, some being cache sensitive as well. The big outlier here is the compile test, indicating that the Skylake-SP might not be (clock for clock) a great compilation core. This is a result we can trace back to the L3 again, being a smaller non-inclusive cache. In our results database, we can see similar results when comparing a Ryzen 7 1700X, an 8-core 95W CPU with 16MB of L3 victim cache, is easily beaten by a Core i7-7700T, with 4 cores at 35W but has 8MB of inclusive L3 cache.

If we treat each of these tests with equal weighting, the overall result will offer a +0.5% gain to the new Skylake-SP core, which is with the margin of error. Nothing too much to be concerned about for most users (except perhaps people who compile all day), although again, these two cores are not in chips that directly compete. The 10-core SKL-SP chip still does the business on compiling:

Office: Chromium Compile (v56)

If all these changes (minus AVX512) offer a +0.5% gain over the standard Skylake-S core, then one question worth asking is what was the point? The answer is usually simple, and I suspect involves scaling (moving to chips with more cores), but also customer related. Intel’s big money comes from the enterprise, and no doubt some of Intel’s internal metrics (as well as customer requests) point to a sizeable chunk of enterprise compute being L2 size limited. I’ll be looking forward to Johan’s review on the enterprise side when the time comes.

Benchmarking Performance: CPU Legacy Tests Intel Skylake-X Core i9-7900X, i7-7820X and i7-7800X Conclusion
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  • Icehawk - Monday, June 19, 2017 - link

    I'm curious to see AMD's response w/Threadripper but the 7820 is looking like the next CPU for me, I'm still on a 3770k and while it is just fine for gaming I've been converting all of my media to x265 and need a lot more muscle to speed that along. I do wish that heat was better controlled as my current system is near silent with a fanless PSU, an AiO water cooler, no mech drives, etc and overclocked to 4.4ghz.
  • Pieter123456 - Monday, June 19, 2017 - link

    Funny how you did not hold of on making a verdict when there were bios and 1080p gaming issues with ryzen launch??!
  • Flying Aardvark - Monday, June 19, 2017 - link

    Intel pays well for such courtesies. AMD, not so much. I heard people saying Ryzen was released defective.
    So the conclusion that AT should be making is that the new i7 and i9 lineup was released as defective.
  • tamalero - Monday, June 19, 2017 - link

    I heard you, I still remember how fanboys and some "socialites" of the hardware sites bashed AMD nonstop on other issues, like the voltage issues on the Polaris chips.

    Nvidia has a problem too, and they arent even close to be that harsh.
    Ryzen's cache issue? THE WORLD IS ENDING FOR AMD!!!
    Intel's drop in performance core per core in some things? "not that bad, balance, etc..etc.."
  • Gothmoth - Tuesday, June 20, 2017 - link

    the biggest issue is this insane heat skylake-x produces when overclocked.

    the bios issues can be resolved.
    that anandtech is more biased towards intel should come as no surprise.
  • tamalero - Tuesday, June 20, 2017 - link

    I noticed that, there is a huge difference in the wording on this article vs the one in tomshardware.

    And both show very different outcomes.
    Specially in overclocking and power consumption. Where the corei9 is ridiculously inefficient.
  • Luckz - Tuesday, June 20, 2017 - link

    "there is a huge difference in the wording"

    And knowing Tomshardware from decades ago, I would have expected the exact opposite.
  • Ryan Smith - Tuesday, June 20, 2017 - link

    To be clear here, our Ryzen article didn't have any gaming coverage either.

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/11170/the-amd-zen-an...

    That launch was based solely on desktop usage & compute, in big part because there were so many weird things going on with gaming. In this article we actually went one step further by specifically recommending that gamers not buy SKL-X for the time being.
  • Gothmoth - Tuesday, June 20, 2017 - link

    but no really critical word about the crazy temps.

    how i am supposed to cool this cpu on air?

    and no real critic that intel uses stupid thermal paste..... overall the critical stuff like crippled PCI lanes need to be adressed more agressive.
  • tamalero - Monday, June 19, 2017 - link

    The TDP differences are insane!

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