Comparing Skylake-S and Skylake-X/SP Performance Clock-for-Clock

If you’ve read through the full review up to this point (and kudos), there should be three things that stick in the back of your mind about the new Skylake-SP cores: Cache, Mesh and AVX512. These are the three main features that separate the consumer grade Skylake-S core from this new core, and all three can have an impact in clock-for-clock performance. Even though the Skylake-S and the Skylake-SP are not competing in the same markets, it is still poignant to gather how much the changes affect the regular benchmark suite.

For this test, we took the Skylake-S based Core i5-6600 and the Skylake-SP based Core i9-7900X and ran them both with only 4 cores, no hyperthreading, and 3 GHz on all cores with no Turbo active. Both CPUs were run in high performance modes in the OS to restrict any time-to-idle, so it is worth noting here that we are not measuring power. This is just raw throughput.

Both of these cores support different DRAM frequencies, however: the i5-6600 lists DDR4-2133 as its maximum supported frequency, whereas the i9-7900X will run at DDR4-2400 at 2DPC. I queried a few colleagues as to what I should do here – technically the memory support is an extended element of the microarchitecture, and the caches/uncore/untile will be running at different frequencies, so how much of the system support should be chipped away for parity. The general consensus was to test with the supported frequencies, given this is how the parts ship.

For this analysis, each test was broken down in two ways: what sort of benchmark (single thread, multi-thread, mixed) and what category of benchmark (web, office, encode).

 

For the single threaded tests, results were generally positive. Kraken enjoyed the L2, and Dolphin emulation had a good gain as well. The legacy tests did not fair that great: 3DPM v1 has false sharing, which is likely taking a hit due to the increased L2 latency.

On the multithreaded tests, the big winner here was Corona. Corona is a high-performance renderer for Autodesk 3ds Max, showing that the larger L2 does a good job with its code base. The step back was in Handbrake – our testing does not implement any AVX512 code, but the L3 victim cache might be at play here over the L3 inclusive cache in SKL-S.

The mixed results are surprising: these tests vary with ST and MT parts to their computation, some being cache sensitive as well. The big outlier here is the compile test, indicating that the Skylake-SP might not be (clock for clock) a great compilation core. This is a result we can trace back to the L3 again, being a smaller non-inclusive cache. In our results database, we can see similar results when comparing a Ryzen 7 1700X, an 8-core 95W CPU with 16MB of L3 victim cache, is easily beaten by a Core i7-7700T, with 4 cores at 35W but has 8MB of inclusive L3 cache.

If we treat each of these tests with equal weighting, the overall result will offer a +0.5% gain to the new Skylake-SP core, which is with the margin of error. Nothing too much to be concerned about for most users (except perhaps people who compile all day), although again, these two cores are not in chips that directly compete. The 10-core SKL-SP chip still does the business on compiling:

Office: Chromium Compile (v56)

If all these changes (minus AVX512) offer a +0.5% gain over the standard Skylake-S core, then one question worth asking is what was the point? The answer is usually simple, and I suspect involves scaling (moving to chips with more cores), but also customer related. Intel’s big money comes from the enterprise, and no doubt some of Intel’s internal metrics (as well as customer requests) point to a sizeable chunk of enterprise compute being L2 size limited. I’ll be looking forward to Johan’s review on the enterprise side when the time comes.

Benchmarking Performance: CPU Legacy Tests Intel Skylake-X Core i9-7900X, i7-7820X and i7-7800X Conclusion
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  • Einy0 - Monday, June 19, 2017 - link

    Ian, I stand corrected and apologize. I think I allowed a previous poster's anger affect my thoughts on the subject. I'm still very confused as to why you would not publish results on both platforms while including a note in regards to gaming performance. Not that these chips are for gaming but many of us use our PCs as an all purpose computing platform and gaming is frequently included in the mix.
  • Ryan Smith - Monday, June 19, 2017 - link

    "I'm still very confused as to why you would not publish results on both platforms while including a note in regards to gaming performance. "

    1) Lack of time. The most recent BIOS update came close to the launch, and we haven't yet had enough time to fully validate all of our data.

    2) Right now gaming performance is all over the place. And with Intel doing pre-orders, by the time you got your chips there's a good chance there will be another BIOS revision that significantly alters gaming performance.
  • Gothmoth - Tuesday, June 20, 2017 - link

    the whole article feels rushed to be honest.

    there is basically no talk about the insane powerdraw and temps when overclocked.
  • jardows2 - Monday, June 19, 2017 - link

    Let me give you the conclusion ahead of time. If you are buying a gaming chip, buy the i7-7700K.

    These are not gaming chips, they are work chips that can do gaming. It's like buying a 1-ton diesel truck, and wanting to floor it at the stoplight. It'll do it, but a Mustang or Camaro will do that better. The truck will be able to haul pretty much anything, that the pony cars will blow their transmissions on.

    Ryzen, on the other hand, is all AMD has, and so gaming results are very relevant to the discussion.
  • prophet001 - Monday, June 19, 2017 - link

    ^ This
  • Hurr Durr - Monday, June 19, 2017 - link

    I`d rather wait for the next iteration, whatever Lake that was. Hopefully 6 cores will step down into the mainstream, and then there is 10 nm.
  • koomba - Thursday, July 6, 2017 - link

    How.many.times.does.it.have.to.be.said? They did NOT post gaming benchmarks on their first Ryzen review either! You are seriously at least the 10th person who has come on here spouting this COMPLETE falsehood, and using it to bash this site or claim some kind of bias.

    Please do some research before you just talk nonsense and base your entire argument around something that isn't true.
  • Gasaraki88 - Monday, June 19, 2017 - link

    Thank you for this article. I knew I could count on Anandtech to write a detailed article on the new Intel cpus, how everything on them worked, like the caches and turbo core 3.0, etc. not just benches.
  • marcis_mk - Monday, June 19, 2017 - link

    Ryzen R7 1700 has 24 pci-e lanes (20 for PCI-E dGPU and 4 for storage)
  • Ian Cutress - Tuesday, June 20, 2017 - link

    AMD has a tendency to quote the sum of all PCIe. We specifically state the PCIe root complex based lanes for GPUs. Ryzen has 16 + 4 + 4 - root complex, chipset, IO. Threadripper has 60 + 4: root complex(es) and chipset. Skylake-S has 16 + 4 - root complex, DMI/chipset. Etc.

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