Comparing Skylake-S and Skylake-X/SP Performance Clock-for-Clock

If you’ve read through the full review up to this point (and kudos), there should be three things that stick in the back of your mind about the new Skylake-SP cores: Cache, Mesh and AVX512. These are the three main features that separate the consumer grade Skylake-S core from this new core, and all three can have an impact in clock-for-clock performance. Even though the Skylake-S and the Skylake-SP are not competing in the same markets, it is still poignant to gather how much the changes affect the regular benchmark suite.

For this test, we took the Skylake-S based Core i5-6600 and the Skylake-SP based Core i9-7900X and ran them both with only 4 cores, no hyperthreading, and 3 GHz on all cores with no Turbo active. Both CPUs were run in high performance modes in the OS to restrict any time-to-idle, so it is worth noting here that we are not measuring power. This is just raw throughput.

Both of these cores support different DRAM frequencies, however: the i5-6600 lists DDR4-2133 as its maximum supported frequency, whereas the i9-7900X will run at DDR4-2400 at 2DPC. I queried a few colleagues as to what I should do here – technically the memory support is an extended element of the microarchitecture, and the caches/uncore/untile will be running at different frequencies, so how much of the system support should be chipped away for parity. The general consensus was to test with the supported frequencies, given this is how the parts ship.

For this analysis, each test was broken down in two ways: what sort of benchmark (single thread, multi-thread, mixed) and what category of benchmark (web, office, encode).

 

For the single threaded tests, results were generally positive. Kraken enjoyed the L2, and Dolphin emulation had a good gain as well. The legacy tests did not fair that great: 3DPM v1 has false sharing, which is likely taking a hit due to the increased L2 latency.

On the multithreaded tests, the big winner here was Corona. Corona is a high-performance renderer for Autodesk 3ds Max, showing that the larger L2 does a good job with its code base. The step back was in Handbrake – our testing does not implement any AVX512 code, but the L3 victim cache might be at play here over the L3 inclusive cache in SKL-S.

The mixed results are surprising: these tests vary with ST and MT parts to their computation, some being cache sensitive as well. The big outlier here is the compile test, indicating that the Skylake-SP might not be (clock for clock) a great compilation core. This is a result we can trace back to the L3 again, being a smaller non-inclusive cache. In our results database, we can see similar results when comparing a Ryzen 7 1700X, an 8-core 95W CPU with 16MB of L3 victim cache, is easily beaten by a Core i7-7700T, with 4 cores at 35W but has 8MB of inclusive L3 cache.

If we treat each of these tests with equal weighting, the overall result will offer a +0.5% gain to the new Skylake-SP core, which is with the margin of error. Nothing too much to be concerned about for most users (except perhaps people who compile all day), although again, these two cores are not in chips that directly compete. The 10-core SKL-SP chip still does the business on compiling:

Office: Chromium Compile (v56)

If all these changes (minus AVX512) offer a +0.5% gain over the standard Skylake-S core, then one question worth asking is what was the point? The answer is usually simple, and I suspect involves scaling (moving to chips with more cores), but also customer related. Intel’s big money comes from the enterprise, and no doubt some of Intel’s internal metrics (as well as customer requests) point to a sizeable chunk of enterprise compute being L2 size limited. I’ll be looking forward to Johan’s review on the enterprise side when the time comes.

Benchmarking Performance: CPU Legacy Tests Intel Skylake-X Core i9-7900X, i7-7820X and i7-7800X Conclusion
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  • Ian Cutress - Monday, June 19, 2017 - link

    Thanks!
  • Cellar Door - Monday, June 19, 2017 - link

    Good review Ian! But you would agree that this launch feel very 'half-baked'?

    I don't think there ever was an Intel launch with this many issues on the platform at start.
  • Ryan Smith - Monday, June 19, 2017 - link

    "I don't think there ever was an Intel launch with this many issues on the platform at start."

    Intel always rolls out some new technology on their HEDT processors, which usually invokes teething issues. X99/HSW-E was the first DDR4 platform, and X79/SNB-E launched with some pretty gnarly PCIe 3.0 issues. So X299/SKL-X is fairly similar to past launches, for better or worse.
  • Drumsticks - Monday, June 19, 2017 - link

    Still working my way through some of the review, but: "The latest KNL chips use 72 Pentium-class" on the microarchitecture analysis page is wrong. Knights Corner was derived from a Pentium but KNL is derived from Silvermont.
  • Ryan Smith - Monday, June 19, 2017 - link

    Thanks!
  • Drumsticks - Monday, June 19, 2017 - link

    Just finished. Thanks for the review. I look forward to seeing updated gaming benchmarks. Would have loved to see what you had similar to Kaby Lake X showing up here and there, but I understand not wanting to show incomplete data. I trust the editorial integrity of Anandtech more than the comment section, so I'm not crying foul. Can't wait for the follow up!
  • Ian Cutress - Monday, June 19, 2017 - link

    Some Kaby-X data is in Bench, mostly the CPU stuff. I need to replace my Kaby i7 that failed.
  • Drumsticks - Monday, June 19, 2017 - link

    Will take a look then, thank you!
  • Vanquished - Monday, June 19, 2017 - link

    Never visiting your site again. You make excuses for Skylake-X crappy gaming performance but were more than happy to bash AMD for the same issue.

    What a load of crap, shame on you.
  • Slappi2 - Monday, June 19, 2017 - link

    Wow. RageQuit because you don't like the truth. It's a CPU!

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