Favored Core

For Broadwell-E, the last generation of Intel’s HEDT platform, we were introduced to the term ‘Favored Core’, which was given the title of Turbo Boost Max 3.0. The idea here is that each piece of silicon that comes off of the production line is different (which is then binned to match to a SKU), but within a piece of silicon the cores themselves will have different frequency and voltage characteristics. The one core that is determined to be the best is called the ‘Favored Core’, and when Intel’s Windows 10 driver and software were in place, single threaded workloads were moved to this favored core to run faster.

In theory, it was good – a step above the generic Turbo Boost 2.0 and offered an extra 100-200 MHz for single threaded applications. In practice, it was flawed: motherboard manufacturers didn’t support it, or they had it disabled in the BIOS by default. Users had to install the drivers and software as well – without the combination of all of these at work, the favored core feature didn’t work at all.

Intel is changing the feature for Skylake-X, with an upgrade and for ease-of-use. The driver and software are now part of Windows updates, so users will get them automatically (if you don’t want it, you have to disable it manually). With Skylake-X, instead of one core being the favored core, there are two cores in this family. As a result, two apps can be run at the higher frequency, or one app that needs two cores can participate. 

Speed Shift

In Skylake-S, the processor has been designed in a way that with the right commands, the OS can hand control of the frequency and voltage back to the processor. Intel called this technology 'Speed Shift'. We’ve discussed Speed Shift before in the Skylake architecture analysis, and it now comes to Skylake-X. One of the requirements for Speed Shift is that it requires operating system support to be able to hand over control of the processor performance to the CPU, and Intel has had to work with Microsoft in order to get this functionality enabled in Windows 10.

Compared to Speed Step / P-state transitions, Intel's new Speed Shift terminology changes the game by having the operating system relinquish some or all control of the P-States, and handing that control off to the processor. This has a couple of noticeable benefits. First, it is much faster for the processor to control the ramp up and down in frequency, compared to OS control. Second, the processor has much finer control over its states, allowing it to choose the most optimum performance level for a given task, and therefore using less energy as a result. Specific jumps in frequency are reduced to around 1ms with Speed Shift's CPU control from 20-30 ms on OS control, and going from an efficient power state to maximum performance can be done in around 35 ms, compared to around 100 ms with the legacy implementation. As seen in the images below, neither technology can jump from low to high instantly, because to maintain data coherency through frequency/voltage changes there is an element of gradient as data is realigned.

The ability to quickly ramp up performance is done to increase overall responsiveness of the system, rather than linger at lower frequencies waiting for OS to pass commands through a translation layer. Speed Shift cannot increase absolute maximum performance, but on short workloads that require a brief burst of performance, it can make a big difference in how quickly that task gets done. Ultimately, much of what we do falls more into this category, such as web browsing or office work. As an example, web browsing is all about getting the page loaded quickly, and then getting the processor back down to idle.

Again, Speed Shift is something that needs to be enabled on all levels - CPU, OS, driver, and motherboard BIOS. It has come to light that some motherboard manufacturers are disabling Speed Shift on desktops by default, negating the feature. In the BIOS is it labeled either as Speed Shift or Hardware P-States, and sometimes even has non-descript options. Unfortunately, a combination of this and other issues has led to a small problem on X299 motherboards.

X299 Motherboards

When we started testing for this review, the main instructions we were given was that when changing between Skylake-X and Kaby Lake-X processors, be sure to remove AC power and hold the reset BIOS button for 30 seconds. This comes down to an issue with supporting both sets of CPUs at once: Skylake-X features some form of integrated voltage regulator (somewhat like the FIVR on Broadwell), whereas Kaby Lake-X is more motherboard controlled. As a result, some of the voltages going in to the CPU, if configured incorrectly, can cause damage. This is where I say I broke a CPU: our Kaby Lake-X Core i7 died on the test bed. We are told that in the future there should be a way to switch between the two without having this issue, but there are some other issues as well.

After speaking with a number of journalists in my close circle, it was clear that some of the GPU testing was not reflective of where the processors sat in the product stack. Some results were 25-50% worse than we expected for Skylake-X (Kaby Lake-X seemingly unaffected), scoring disastrously low frame rates. This was worrying.

Speaking with the motherboard manufacturers, it's coming down to a few issues: managing the mesh frequency (and if the mesh frequency has a turbo), controlling turbo modes, and controlling features like Speed Shift. 'Controlling' in this case can mean boosting voltages to support it better, overriding the default behavior for 'performance' which works on some tests but not others, or disabling the feature completely.

We were still getting new BIOSes two days before launch, right when I need to fly half-way across the world to cover other events. Even retesting the latest BIOS we had for the boards we had, there still seems to be an underlying issue with either the games or the power management involved. This isn't necessarily a code optimization issue for the games themselves: the base microarchitecture on the CPU is still the same with a slight cache adjustment, so if a Skylake-X starts performing below an old Sandy Bridge Core i3, it's not on the game.

We're still waiting to hear for BIOS updates, or reasons why this is the case. Some games are affected a lot, others not at all. Any game we are testing which ends up being GPU limited is unaffected, showing that this is a CPU issue.

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  • AnandTechReader2017 - Tuesday, June 20, 2017 - link

    The Chill feature for AMD would probably be amazing for a mini-ITX build. Still waiting on AMD to launch dedicated graphics cards for laptops with it, would be amazing.

    I hope Nvidia comes up with a similar feature, would make gaming on laptops a lot nicer/quieter.
  • rocky12345 - Monday, June 19, 2017 - link

    "As the first new serious entry into the HEDT space for AMD in almost five years, along with a new x86 core, AMD offered similar-ish performance to Broadwell-E in many aspects (within a few percent), but at half the price or better."

    Half right it was AMD's first serious entry into High end Mainstream Desktop in five years. We have not seem AMD's HEDT platform in action yet since it has not been released yet. With that said I was surprised how AMD's current Mainstream R7's were able to compete with Intels new HEDT platform so well. If this is what we are to expect from AMD's actual HEDT platform Intel will have a fight on their hands for sure.

    I hope when AMD releases their Threadripper platform we get just as an extensive review for that as well. To me it is a lot more exciting to see x399 and threadripper in action than the x299 since Intel has been doing their HEDT platform for many years now and this will be the first time AMD has entered into the same Extreme high end space as Intel at the consumer level hardware.
  • Manch - Tuesday, June 20, 2017 - link

    HEMD? LOL

    Ryzen is a great chip no doubt. AMD is once again pushing Intel to iterate vs stagnate. AMD offers a great price/perf proc. But, AMD brought the comparison on themselves. Most previews were not against a 6700K or 7700K but against Intel's HEDT procs which AMD was clearly targeting with the pre-release benchmark comparos. It is not unfair to compare them.
  • Braincruser - Monday, June 19, 2017 - link

    Any particular reason the mainstream intel processors are not in the benchmarks? One of the more important measurements for me is the difference between the mainstream and high end platforms.
  • Ryan Smith - Monday, June 19, 2017 - link

    While we technically have infinite space, we try not to overload the graphs with too many products, focusing on new products and certain generational comparisons. For specific comparisons you'd like to see that aren't in a graph, you can find all of that over in Bench.

    http://www.anandtech.com/bench/
  • AnandTechReader2017 - Tuesday, June 20, 2017 - link

    Thanks for the link, I didn't know you guys had that.
  • none12345 - Monday, June 19, 2017 - link

    Small correction for your article, ryzen 7 has 20 pci lanes not 16. I am NOT counting 4 more for the chipset, if you count those its 24. Youve got 16 to the gpu, and 4 to a direct connected m.2(or 2 sata ports, but usually its a m.2)

    Tho thats not the whole story. Since technically you dont need the chipset, so you could connect something else instead on those 4 lanes. In the real world tho almost every motherboard will have a chipset there.

    And then there are the usb ports which have direct connections on the chip as well. Thats could be counted as more pci lanes if one wanted to. They dont share the chipset link.

    So depending on how you count it, its 20, 24, or 28 lanes. I would call it 20 and not count the usb or the chipset ones, but id definitly count the direct connected m.2
  • Nintendo Maniac 64 - Monday, June 19, 2017 - link

    Uhhh, where's the results for Dolphin? It's on the "clock-for-clock" page but not on the "CPU system tests" page...
  • Ro_Ja - Monday, June 19, 2017 - link

    It's nice to see the Ryzen Chips keeping up with i9s.
  • Hurr Durr - Tuesday, June 20, 2017 - link

    Except they don`t, hence the price difference.

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