Favored Core

For Broadwell-E, the last generation of Intel’s HEDT platform, we were introduced to the term ‘Favored Core’, which was given the title of Turbo Boost Max 3.0. The idea here is that each piece of silicon that comes off of the production line is different (which is then binned to match to a SKU), but within a piece of silicon the cores themselves will have different frequency and voltage characteristics. The one core that is determined to be the best is called the ‘Favored Core’, and when Intel’s Windows 10 driver and software were in place, single threaded workloads were moved to this favored core to run faster.

In theory, it was good – a step above the generic Turbo Boost 2.0 and offered an extra 100-200 MHz for single threaded applications. In practice, it was flawed: motherboard manufacturers didn’t support it, or they had it disabled in the BIOS by default. Users had to install the drivers and software as well – without the combination of all of these at work, the favored core feature didn’t work at all.

Intel is changing the feature for Skylake-X, with an upgrade and for ease-of-use. The driver and software are now part of Windows updates, so users will get them automatically (if you don’t want it, you have to disable it manually). With Skylake-X, instead of one core being the favored core, there are two cores in this family. As a result, two apps can be run at the higher frequency, or one app that needs two cores can participate. 

Speed Shift

In Skylake-S, the processor has been designed in a way that with the right commands, the OS can hand control of the frequency and voltage back to the processor. Intel called this technology 'Speed Shift'. We’ve discussed Speed Shift before in the Skylake architecture analysis, and it now comes to Skylake-X. One of the requirements for Speed Shift is that it requires operating system support to be able to hand over control of the processor performance to the CPU, and Intel has had to work with Microsoft in order to get this functionality enabled in Windows 10.

Compared to Speed Step / P-state transitions, Intel's new Speed Shift terminology changes the game by having the operating system relinquish some or all control of the P-States, and handing that control off to the processor. This has a couple of noticeable benefits. First, it is much faster for the processor to control the ramp up and down in frequency, compared to OS control. Second, the processor has much finer control over its states, allowing it to choose the most optimum performance level for a given task, and therefore using less energy as a result. Specific jumps in frequency are reduced to around 1ms with Speed Shift's CPU control from 20-30 ms on OS control, and going from an efficient power state to maximum performance can be done in around 35 ms, compared to around 100 ms with the legacy implementation. As seen in the images below, neither technology can jump from low to high instantly, because to maintain data coherency through frequency/voltage changes there is an element of gradient as data is realigned.

The ability to quickly ramp up performance is done to increase overall responsiveness of the system, rather than linger at lower frequencies waiting for OS to pass commands through a translation layer. Speed Shift cannot increase absolute maximum performance, but on short workloads that require a brief burst of performance, it can make a big difference in how quickly that task gets done. Ultimately, much of what we do falls more into this category, such as web browsing or office work. As an example, web browsing is all about getting the page loaded quickly, and then getting the processor back down to idle.

Again, Speed Shift is something that needs to be enabled on all levels - CPU, OS, driver, and motherboard BIOS. It has come to light that some motherboard manufacturers are disabling Speed Shift on desktops by default, negating the feature. In the BIOS is it labeled either as Speed Shift or Hardware P-States, and sometimes even has non-descript options. Unfortunately, a combination of this and other issues has led to a small problem on X299 motherboards.

X299 Motherboards

When we started testing for this review, the main instructions we were given was that when changing between Skylake-X and Kaby Lake-X processors, be sure to remove AC power and hold the reset BIOS button for 30 seconds. This comes down to an issue with supporting both sets of CPUs at once: Skylake-X features some form of integrated voltage regulator (somewhat like the FIVR on Broadwell), whereas Kaby Lake-X is more motherboard controlled. As a result, some of the voltages going in to the CPU, if configured incorrectly, can cause damage. This is where I say I broke a CPU: our Kaby Lake-X Core i7 died on the test bed. We are told that in the future there should be a way to switch between the two without having this issue, but there are some other issues as well.

After speaking with a number of journalists in my close circle, it was clear that some of the GPU testing was not reflective of where the processors sat in the product stack. Some results were 25-50% worse than we expected for Skylake-X (Kaby Lake-X seemingly unaffected), scoring disastrously low frame rates. This was worrying.

Speaking with the motherboard manufacturers, it's coming down to a few issues: managing the mesh frequency (and if the mesh frequency has a turbo), controlling turbo modes, and controlling features like Speed Shift. 'Controlling' in this case can mean boosting voltages to support it better, overriding the default behavior for 'performance' which works on some tests but not others, or disabling the feature completely.

We were still getting new BIOSes two days before launch, right when I need to fly half-way across the world to cover other events. Even retesting the latest BIOS we had for the boards we had, there still seems to be an underlying issue with either the games or the power management involved. This isn't necessarily a code optimization issue for the games themselves: the base microarchitecture on the CPU is still the same with a slight cache adjustment, so if a Skylake-X starts performing below an old Sandy Bridge Core i3, it's not on the game.

We're still waiting to hear for BIOS updates, or reasons why this is the case. Some games are affected a lot, others not at all. Any game we are testing which ends up being GPU limited is unaffected, showing that this is a CPU issue.

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  • Ian Cutress - Monday, June 19, 2017 - link

    Didn't get a chance to do overclocking. Testing 5 chips rather than one chip in less than a week (with BIOS issues) means I haven't slept much, and now I'm at a different event half way around the world.
  • Ian Cutress - Monday, June 19, 2017 - link

    I should add I have some 5 GHz numbers on Kaby i7. I need to find time to write but I'm fully booked today :(
  • FreckledTrout - Monday, June 19, 2017 - link

    Cool! (Pun intended)
  • AnandTechReader2017 - Tuesday, June 20, 2017 - link

    Could you also test with Speedshift on/off? Would be interesting how much of an impact it has.
  • lefty2 - Monday, June 19, 2017 - link

    One thing that is never covered by any of these reviews is the efficiency of the CPU. If you measure performance of a benchmark, then divide by the the power used in said benchmark, you will see the most efficient CPU by far is the R7 1700. All Intel Skylake-X and Kaby Lake CPUs are far less efficient (also the R7 1800X for that matter).
  • Archie2085 - Monday, June 19, 2017 - link

    @BrokenCrayons

    Oops .. I did not realise how odd it looked.

    On a different note . tom's hardware a sister site has done a balanced review including gaming benches.. Still looks like a rushed product :)

    Intel has to work on that god awful "TIM"
  • AnandTechReader2017 - Tuesday, June 20, 2017 - link

    Wouldn't trust toms hardware since that fiasco with only Intel chips recommended for everything when the R7 1700 was clearly better a better choice.
  • lordken - Wednesday, July 19, 2017 - link

    though they do include ryzen as of next update to their CPU recommend guide. They probably re-evaluated after that shitstorm in their comments :)
    btw how that fits into your perspective? If they are intel biased how that they did beat i9 quite nicely.

    Though I was surprised also that AT didn't talk more about power and heat issues as I did first read Toms article http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/-intel-skylake... and after I had good lols especially after reading this fabulous line
    "Ultimately, we’re looking at power consumption numbers similar to some high-end graphics cards when we start messing with Skylake-X. AMD’s FX-9590X doesn’t even come close to these results"
    I came here and was surprised to not read anything here, as thermals and heat looks to be pretty tragic...
    If AMD would came up with such space heater it would be all over the place...but since its intel it seems to be no issue.
  • Kevin G - Monday, June 19, 2017 - link

    I would be hesitate to indicate that the memory controller's size is tied the same size as a CPU core for tiling purposes. Intel could easily produce a double wide, half height memory controller and place them at the ends of a column. Intel could also start putting memory controllers on two routers to remove a hop-or-two to cut down on latencies on-die. Ditto for coherecy links and IO controllers. They don't have to be rectangular and the same size of a core for optimal placement.

    In your mock up of the 5x6 arrangement, there is a lot of wasted space that could be negated if Intel were to re-arrange the dimensions of the IO and memory controllers a bit. Your estimate of a 677 mm^2 is spot on with what you've gone but there is incredible pressure to reduce such huge dies to make them easier to manufacturer. There is simplicity in keeping IO and memory controllers the same size as a core for rapid construction of the entire die but I think the trade off would favor smaller die size here.
  • Communism - Monday, June 19, 2017 - link

    If you are going to post "power consumption" and "power efficiency" graphs/analysis, you need to post the performance from the "power consumption" test itself, or else it's pretty pointless when comparing vastly different CPUs.

    You mentioned you tested power consumption with prime95.

    I'd wager the intel has a hilariously high performance per watt in prime95 as it would likely be using avx2 instructions (and the massive memory bandwidth of the cache as well as the massive memory bandwidth of the main memory/IMC combination if you are using larger dataset option).

    I wonder how many hundreds of pages of AMD shill posts that this post will be buried under within hours :P

    Oh well, any actual readers should wait for a DigitalFoundry review whenever that happens to come out if you want useful game testing results anyways.

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