Compute

Shifting gears, let’s take a look at compute performance on Pascal.

Overall, we’re not expecting a significant difference in compute performance compared to Maxwell 2 for standard compute benchmarks. The fundamental architecture hasn’t changed – the CUDA cores, register files, and caches still behave as before - so there’s little reason for compute performance to shift. GP104 for all intents and purposes should perform like a higher clocked and slightly wider Maxwell 2, similar to what we’ve seen in most games.

However in the long run there is potential for Pascal to show some improvements. The architecture’s improved scheduling features are geared in part towards HPC users, and instruction level preemption means that compute kernels can now be a lot more aggressive on consumer systems since they can be paused so easily. That said, to really leverage any of these improvements, applications utilizing GPU compute need to have work that benefits from better scheduling and be written with Pascal in mind, and for consumer workloads the latter is likely a long way off.

Starting us off for our look at compute is LuxMark3.1, the latest version of the official benchmark of LuxRender. LuxRender’s GPU-accelerated rendering mode is an OpenCL based ray tracer that forms a part of the larger LuxRender suite. Ray tracing has become a stronghold for GPUs in recent years as ray tracing maps well to GPU pipelines, allowing artists to render scenes much more quickly than with CPUs alone.

Compute: LuxMark 3.1 - Hotel

As with games, when it comes to LuxMark, the GTX 1080 is uncontested; this is the first high performance FinFET GPU in action. That said, I’m surprised by how close some of these results cluster. Though GTX 1080 is not a full generational replacement for GTX 980 Ti, normally it outperforms the Big Maxwell card by more than this. Instead we’re looking at a lead of just 10%, notably less than a simple extrapolation of CUDA core counts and frequencies would tell us to expect (GTX 1080 has almost 50% more FLOPs).

That said, GTX 1070 still places very close to GTX 980 Ti – albeit below it – so what we’re seeing isn’t just Pascal being a laggard. Especially since as a consequence of this, GTX 1080 only beats GTX 1070 by 12%. In any case, this may be a case of early drivers, particularly as OpenCL has not been an NVIDIA priority for the last couple of years. Alternatively, as strange as it may be, I’m not ready to rule out LuxMark being CPU limited. It’s something that we’ll have to keep an eye on.

For our second set of compute benchmarks we have CompuBench 1.5, the successor to CLBenchmark. CompuBench offers a wide array of different practical compute workloads, and we’ve decided to focus on face detection, optical flow modeling, and particle simulations.

Compute: CompuBench 1.5 - Face Detection

Compute: CompuBench 1.5 - Optical Flow

Compute: CompuBench 1.5 - Particle Simulation 64K

Depending on which sub-test we’re looking at, CompuBench is all over the place. In Face Detection the GTX 1080 takes a commanding lead, with GTX 1070 easily slotting into second place. On the other hand we have Optical Flow, which NVIDIA cards have traditionally struggled with, where even GTX 1080 can’t unseat Radeon Fury X. Finally in the middle we have the 64K Particle Simulation, which has GTX 1080 in the lead again, but not unlike LuxMark, it also has some interesting clustering going on.

Ultimately each test stresses our GPU collection in different ways, which as we can see greatly influences how the results pan out. Face Detection has always played well to NVIDIA’s strengths, and on a generational basis we get solid scaling from Maxwell 2 to Pascal. Even Optical Flow, which seems to favor raw FLOPs more than anything else, still shows very good gains with Pascal.

Particle Simulation is the outlier in this regard; Pascal’s generational gains are not insignificant, but they’re less than what we’d expect. Furthermore GTX 1080 and GTX 1070 are very closely clustered together despite their much larger difference in FLOPs. This may mean we’re looking at a CPU or driver bottleneck, or possibly some sort of internal path bottleneck. GTX 1080 has more FLOPs and a similar advantage in memory bandwidth, but once you get on chip things get much closer. If nothing else this goes to show that compute benchmarks are much more architecture sensitive than games, which is why we can’t make very broad generalizations for all compute workloads.

Moving on, our 3rd compute benchmark is the next generation release of FAHBench, the official Folding @ Home benchmark. Folding @ Home is the popular Stanford-backed research and distributed computing initiative that has work distributed to millions of volunteer computers over the internet, each of which is responsible for a tiny slice of a protein folding simulation. FAHBench can test both single precision and double precision floating point performance, with single precision being the most useful metric for most consumer cards due to their low double precision performance. Each precision has two modes, explicit and implicit, the difference being whether water atoms are included in the simulation, which adds quite a bit of work and overhead. This is another OpenCL test, utilizing the OpenCL path for FAHCore 21.

Compute: Folding @ Home Single Precision

Compute: Folding @ Home Double Precision

In single precision performance, to the surprise of no one the GTX 1080 is solidly in the lead, followed up by the GTX 1070. On a generational basis performance gains are decent, but at 44% for GTX 1080 they aren’t quite as great as we’ve seen from the card elsewhere. Meanwhile the two Pascal cards are again closer than we’d expect, with GTX 1080 leading by only 10%.

As for double precision performance, we can see that even with the higher overall compute throughput of GP104, it still can’t make up for the fact that FP64 performance on the GPU is capped at 1/32 by virtue of so few FP64 CUDA cores, which puts even NVIDIA’s latest and greatest at a disadvantage here. But if nothing else, generational scaling versus Maxwell 2 looks very good, with performance gains closely tracking the theoretical increase in FLOPs.

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  • DonMiguel85 - Wednesday, July 20, 2016 - link

    Agreed. They'll likely be much more power-hungry, but I believe it's definitely doable. At the very least it'll probably be similar to Fury X Vs. GTX 980
  • sonicmerlin - Thursday, July 21, 2016 - link

    The 1070 is as fast as the 980 ti. The 1060 is as fast as a 980. The 1080 is much faster than a 980 ti. Every card jumped up two tiers in performance from the previous gen. That's "standard" to you?
  • Kvaern1 - Sunday, July 24, 2016 - link

    I don't think there's much evidence pointing in the direction of GCN 4 blowing Pascal out of the water.

    Sadly, AMD needs a win but I don't see it coming. Budgets matter.
  • watzupken - Wednesday, July 20, 2016 - link

    Brilliant review. Thanks for the in depth review. This is late, but the analysis is its strength and value add worth waiting for.
  • ptown16 - Wednesday, July 20, 2016 - link

    This review was a L O N G time coming, but gotta admit, excellent as always. This was the ONLY Pascal review to acknowledge and significantly include Kepler cards in the benchmarks and some comments. It makes sense to bench GK104 and analyze generational improvements since Kepler debuted 28nm and Pascal has finally ushered in the first node shrink since then. I guessed Anandtech would be the only site to do so, and looks like that's exactly what happened. Looking forward to the upcoming Polaris review!
  • DonMiguel85 - Wednesday, July 20, 2016 - link

    I do still wonder if Kepler's poor performance nowadays is largely due to neglected driver optimizations or just plain old/inefficient architecture. If it's the latter, it's really pretty bad with modern game workloads.
  • ptown16 - Wednesday, July 20, 2016 - link

    It may be a little of the latter, but Kepler was pretty amazing at launch. I suspect driver neglect though, seeing as how Kepler performance got notably WORSE soon after Maxwell. It's also interesting to see how the comparable GCN cards of that time, which were often slower than the Kepler competition, are now significantly faster.
  • DonMiguel85 - Thursday, July 21, 2016 - link

    Yeah, and a GTX 960 often beats a GTX 680 or 770 in many newer games. Sometimes it's even pretty close to a 780.
  • hansmuff - Thursday, July 21, 2016 - link

    This is the one issue that has me wavering for the next card. My AMD cards, the last one being a 5850, have always lasted longer than my NV cards; of course at the expense of slower game fixes/ready drivers.

    So far so good with a 1.5yrs old 970, but I'm keeping a close eye on it. I'm looking forward to what VEGA brings.
  • ptown16 - Thursday, July 21, 2016 - link

    Yeah I'd keep an eye on it. My 770 can still play new games, albeit at lowered quality settings. The one hope for the 970 and other Maxwell cards is that Pascal is so similar. The only times I see performance taking a big hit would be newer games using asynchronous workloads, since Maxwell is poorly prepared to handle that. Otherwise maybe Maxwell cards will last much longer than Kepler. That said, I'm having second thoughts on the 1070 and curious to see what AMD can offer in the $300-$400 price range.

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