One of the quiet announcements that came out of Apple’s new Mac Pro announcement was the launch of Intel’s next generation Xeon W processors. Aside from being completely under the radar from a formal announcement, the new line of workstation focused CPUs heralds a few quirks: they are Cascade Lake based, they are only in the LGA3647 socket, and they have 64 available PCIe 3.0 lanes.

The current Xeon W product line, based on Skylake-SP, uses the common high-end desktop socket LGA2066, but with a workstation focused chipset. These processors are available up to eighteen cores, using Intel’s HCC 18-core die as the highest it will go. The other features of these processors include quad channel memory, 512GB ECC support, and up to 48 PCIe 3.0 lanes. What Intel has done for the next generation has bump it up to the server socket, which affords more memory channels, higher TDPs, more memory supported, and a higher core count.

The new Cascade Lake-based Xeon W-3200 family will be offered up to 28 cores, using Intel’s XCC 28-core die as the base for the high-end models. As a Cascade Lake processor, the new Xeon W will come with additional in-hardware fixes for some of the Spectre and Meltdown vulnerabilities, similar to the Cascade Lake Xeon Scalable Processors. Intel has also made a substantial change in the way that it intends to market its Xeon W processors, as the new models also change socket compared to the previous generation.

Historically we are afforded multiple generations of workstation CPU on the same socket, however at this time Intel has decided to forgo this application and move Xeon W from the LGA2066 socket to the LGA3647 socket, limiting users who wish to upgrade from their Xeon W-2100 processors. The new socket, combined with the new silicon, means that Intel can offer new Xeon W owners more features, although much to the chagrin of previous Xeon W owners. This doesn't exclude Intel launching another set of CPUs on the LGA2066 socket for upgrades, however given the lack of fanfare for this launch, it wouldn't seem likely that Intel has plans to do so.

The LGA3647 socket has been used in Xeon Scalable processors since Skylake-SP launch, and affords six full DDR4 memory channels. The silicon inside the new Xeon W does have six memory controllers, allowing it to take full use of this feature. (Technically the previous generation also had six memory controllers in the silicon, but the platform was limited to four, as per Intel’s product positioning strategy.)


The LGA3647 system Intel sent with the last Xeon W Review Unit

As with the previous Xeon W, the cores are arranged in a block, and inside is a ‘Mesh’ which we’ve described in detail in previous reviews. One of the additional features for the Xeon W-3200 is the upgrade to a full 64 PCIe 3.0 lanes available for PCIe slots, up from the previous 48. This also makes Intel’s new Cascade Lake W-3200 family the x86 product that Intel offers with the most PCIe lanes.

This is a bit of a technicality – previous Xeon SP and Xeon W did actually have 64 lanes on the silicon, however 16 of them were reserved for on-package chips, such as OmniPath. What Intel has done here is re-route them through the socket pins instead, allowing motherboard manufacturers to design a full x16/x16/x16/x16 layout or variants therein. This also means that the LGA3647 socket already had pins ready to be allocated to these PCIe lanes, so it would not have surprised me if Intel has already sold 64 PCIe lane custom versions to customers since the original Skylake-SP launch.

Here are the nine new CPUs:

Intel Cascade Lake Xeon W-3200 Family
AnandTech Cores
Threads
TDP Base
Freq
Turbo
2.0
Turbo
3.0
DRAM Price
W-3275M 28C / 56T 205 W 2.5 GHz 4.4 GHz 4.6 GHz 2 TiB $7453
W-3275 28C / 56T 205 W 2.5 GHz 4.4 GHz 4.6 GHz 1 TiB $4449
W-3265M 24C / 48T 205 W 2.7 GHz 4.4 GHz 4.6 GHz 2 TiB $6353
W-3265 24C / 48T 205 W 2.7 GHz 4.4 GHz 4.6 GHz 1 TiB $3349
W-3245M 16C / 32T 205 W 3.2 GHz 4.4 GHz 4.6 GHz 2 TiB $5002
W-3245 16C / 32T 205 W 3.2 GHz 4.4 GHz 4.6 GHz 1 TiB $1999
W-3235 12C / 24T 180 W 3.3 GHz 4.4 GHz 4.5 GHz 1 TiB $1398
W-3225 8C / 16T 160 W 3.7 GHz 4.3 GHz 4.4 GHz 1 TiB $1199
W-3223 8C / 16T 160 W 3.5 GHz 4.0 GHz 4.2 GHz 1 TiB $749

Each CPU also supports AVX512, with two FMA units across every model. Memory support for all CPUs is listed as six channels of DDR4-2933 (except the 8 core parts , which are DDR4-2666), with a base support of 1 TiB of memory which rises to 2 TiB for the higher memory models (for an additional $3000). This also marks the first instance in which Intel is offering higher memory support SKUs for Xeon W, although it should be noted that Intel seems relatively happy these days to allow support of unbalanced memory configurations. E.g. 1 TiB split between 12 memory slots means 8 x 64GiB + 4 x 128 GiB module arrangements, or 2 TiB means 8 x 128 GiB + 4 x 256 GiB.

Another feature making its way onto these CPUs is Turbo Boost Max 3.0, which is an additional turbo setting on each CPU if the situation allows it. It should be pointed out that in-line with other workstation CPUs, these models are only built for single socket systems.

One interesting feature missing from these CPUs is Optane DC Persistent Memory support. Intel had stated at its Investor Day presentations that Optane DC Persistent Memory support was coming to the workstation processor line by the end of the year. This means that either Intel is planning another Xeon W update between now and Q1 2020, or this feature may be BIOS enabled later in its lifecycle. The other alternative is that Intel will offer Optane capable custom SKUs for specific customers.

Intel’s new Cascade Lake Xeon W processor line is currently available in the new Apple Mac Pro. We expect it to filter down into other platforms over the next two quarters, and perhaps become more widely available at retail.

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  • brakdoo - Monday, June 10, 2019 - link

    Who gives a damn about Optane DIMMs? Only SAP Hana and similar software that basically just need faster SSDs. That's not Workstation stuff.

    Why don't you do some real research on Optane instead of believing all that marketing? You even had a system to test if I'm not mistaken.
    Reply
  • ITRocksYaSocks - Monday, June 10, 2019 - link

    When you know it all please enlighten us with your first hand experience! Reply
  • brakdoo - Tuesday, June 11, 2019 - link

    Ok silly, we should collect money to send you to school so that you can learn to read:

    I enlightened you by telling you that there are no workstation tasks that benefit from Optane (plus you give up memory channels, a WS killer).
    Reply
  • ITRocksYaSocks - Tuesday, June 11, 2019 - link

    Then go back to school and learn what enlighen or first hand experience means. Reply
  • Mikewind Dale - Wednesday, June 12, 2019 - link

    I've got a friend who needs a few hundred GB of RAM to do her work. (She's an economics professor.) We're tentatively planning on my building her an EPYC with 16 modules of 32 GB, because that's the most RAM she can afford. (64 GB modules are just too expensive.) I'm looking forward to the day when Optane DIMMs make it more affordable to have large amounts of RAM. Reply
  • mode_13h - Friday, June 21, 2019 - link

    Is the data access pattern truly random? If not, you could get a fast NVMe drive and use it as swap.

    For this, you could even use Intel's Optane-based 900P, which are now available at some discount.
    Reply
  • twtech - Wednesday, June 12, 2019 - link

    There are a lot of different uses for a workstation. For IO-bound workloads, some Optane memory could be an effective alternative to setting up a RAM drive for very frequently accessed files. Reply
  • mode_13h - Friday, June 21, 2019 - link

    With fast NVMe SSDs and the way operating systems automatically use free RAM as a disk cache, there's almost no use case for RAM disks, any more. Maybe in some specialized server applications, but that's about it. Reply
  • azfacea - Monday, June 10, 2019 - link

    W-3275 28C / 56T 205 W 2.5 GHz 4.4 GHz 4.6 GHz 1 TiB $4449
    W-3275M 28C / 56T 205 W 2.5 GHz 4.4 GHz 4.6 GHz 2 TiB $7453

    extra 3000$ for not disabling the extra memory address space. why are these ppl not in jail at this point ??
    Reply
  • shabby - Monday, June 10, 2019 - link

    Welcome to business 101 @ intel. Reply

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