Beyond TV 3.5 - Different Two-Channel Lineups

Note how Beyond TV handles two different channel lineups: in our case antenna and cable.

Channels will not be seen as one entry unless:
  • they have the same call sign (aka station name)
  • they have the same channel number
However, even if they meet these requirements, it is possible that they have different content. Additionally, if they are the same, they can have different commercials, though may have the same shows. Therefore, we feel that it would be valuable to be able to untie and tie channels together manually.



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If you use the remote to change to channel 3 (for example) with our system, the first listed channel 3 will be tuned into. You can get to the second listed channel 3 by pressing channel up on the remote.

Beyond TV 3.5 – Major Changes: The Minor Stuff (cont.) Beyond TV 3.5 – Beyond TV Link, Clients
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  • Filibuster - Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - link

    In a PVR250 card you cannot turn off the hardware compression...the card basically does all output through the mpeg encoder.

    With TV Link (network client) you can watch hardware encoded mpeg (live or recorded) via a lan, but not over the internet. It works much better than the web based streamer too.

    Unfortunatly that takes out one thing important to some people. :)
  • AndrewKu - Tuesday, August 24, 2004 - link

    #5 - It was suppose to be within a week. But it looks like SnapStream has bumped the date to early Sept.

    Btw, a slight clarification, when I mentioned that conflict management is not on the client side that was relating to the time/clock issue between the server and the client. When you schedule a recording that creates a conflict, you still need to perform conflict management, even on the client side.
  • ViRGE - Tuesday, August 24, 2004 - link

    There are 2 reasons(I know of) why they can't really stream the MPEG2 stream; it's bandwidth intensive(up to 12Mb/sec), and it requires a decoder license. Even transcoding the stream isn't very feesable, since it would require decoding the MPEG2 stream, then encoding in WMV, which may be difficult to do in real time. A seperate program is also required, and likely a specialized decoder, since by default, I don't believe that WMP knows how to deal with a streaming MPEG2 file anyhow, which may also be a problem with the codec.
  • glennpratt - Tuesday, August 24, 2004 - link

    Also, they don't have to use the Hardware Encoding features of the card, you should be able to turn it off.

    I don't know why they can't stream hardware MPEG2 encoding... I guess that would be a completely different way to streaming as opposed to the software encoder. MCE requires hardware encoding and you can just start playing another program on another MCE or PC while it's recording. Not exactly streaming...
  • Night201 - Tuesday, August 24, 2004 - link

    Any idea of a timeframe of when this is coming out? Sept? Oct?
  • johnsonx - Tuesday, August 24, 2004 - link

    In a multi-tuner setup, I'm guessing you have to use the same encoding method for both cards; the hardware cards only do MPEG-2, and MPEG-2 is the one you can't stream.

    That's just my guess; I'm not at all sure.
  • Resh - Tuesday, August 24, 2004 - link

    I really wish they could find a way to allow streaming over networks if at least one of the tuner cards is a software encoder. For example, one could have a PVR-250 and an ATI TV-Wonder, with the latter being used to stream over the network.

    No idea why they haven't done this, but if it is a technical possibility, I wish they would do it.

    Another nicety would be the ability to add program info to edited files (e.g., after removing commercials, we could add the air date, channel, and synopsis).

    Can't wait for the list be folders option.
  • reboos - Tuesday, August 24, 2004 - link

    MythTV!
  • Rapacious - Tuesday, August 24, 2004 - link

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