PM Forum - Q3/2003: Part 1

by Andrew Ku on September 16, 2003 11:36 PM EST

4. Upgrade cycles are stretching out and i845PE motherboards have enjoyed a high volume of sales. For the next two quarters, is your company…

  1. planning to do smaller volumes of production for 865G/865P/865PE motherboards?

  1. expecting low sales for 865G/865P/865PE motherboards in the next two quarters?

PM #1: Because of the economy, users/corporations still have a tight budget. However, since new Intel FSB800 CPUs have become mainstream, the demand of new 875/865 family boards also becomes strong and stronger. …we will definitely extend our production to fulfill the demand.

PM #2:

  1. The price gap getting less in clone market between FSB 800 vs. 533 CPU.
  2. The price gap getting less between Serial ATA HDD vs. ATA/133 HDD.
  3. 848P platform lower price will squeeze 845 series portion.

PM #3: 848P will share some market of the 865PE.

PM #4: Intel will promote the 865 series more aggressive in 2H 2003, including price cut downs.

PM #5: 845 series demand will stay strong in 3rd world countries, basically, but the 865 series will be the mainstream choice for industrialized countries.

PM #6: To see an increase of volume for 865G/865P/865PE, we need to have its chipset cost approach the $25 mark. This will make the Springdale chipset more mainstream.

PM #7: We except the market will start moving to dual channel DDR instead of single channel. Dual channel will become mainstream in the following quarters.

PM #8: It all depends on how Intel is gonna push its 800MHz CPU.

PM #9: The new chipset i848P will be a sweet spot from Intel. The transition planning from 845PE to 848P is POR to happen in Q4. The 845PE will EOL gradually.

The response we got back for both parts of the question were the same: 85% yes and 15% no. We asked this question to see if the high sales of the i845PE/GE motherboards have saturated the market to the point where upgrades or sales of the next generation of chipsets would be hindered. It seems that isn’t the case. Manufacturers are, for the most part, gearing themselves for relatively the same volume of production. Additionally, we are on hand to expect more price cuts in the last half of 2003, which bodes very well for consumers and manufacturers. It was once suggested that dual channel would be skipped for DDRII, but this hasn’t materialized. DDRII is still a ways off, and dual channel support is up due to new Intel chipsets. It is suggested from the feedback that single channel DDR will hit the end of its life sometime in Q4, which means sales will be further boosted by this phase out.

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  • Anonymous User - Monday, September 22, 2003 - link

    I'm not sure I understand the obsession with top-of-the-line 3D graphics performance on entry level workstations. Are you telling me that the majority of workstations are sold to game developers or something? What about the significantly large IC design market? What about embedded software development? Granted, Sun Workstations have traditionally ruled this space but x86 is gaining a serious foothold when considering both W2k/XP and Linux. I could not possibly care less about my workstation's fps benchmark in Half Life 2 or whatever the latest 'ultimate' gaming graphics engine benchmark happens to be. I want a machine that crunches numbers like you've never seen, renders the screen perfectly (no buggy drivers! grrr) and doesn't require me to sell my car to pay for it. I have a hard time seeing any engineering workstation other than those used for gaming development or other highly graphics specific niche markets needing state of the art 3D performance. Please enlighten me if I'm hopelessly misinformed.

    High-End Desktops, though, are a completely different story. That's gamer land, and I don't think we'll ever see integration work well there because of that segment's demand for flexibility, scalability, and top-notch 3D graphics.

    IMHO, it doesn't make much sense to lump High-End Desktops and Workstations into the same pile. They have very different target markets with very different requirements. From the processor standpoint, perhaps, but not from an overall system feature and performance perspective.
  • Anonymous User - Thursday, September 18, 2003 - link

    What a dumb comment, pie chart colors?
  • Anonymous User - Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - link

    The lack of consistency in assignment of colours in the pie charts is confusing.

    example:
    In chart #1 No is Red.
    In chart #2 No is Green, and yes is Red.

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