AMD Kabini AM1 Conclusions

After dealing with enthusiast mainstream CPUs for so many years, wrapping your head around 2 GHz dual/quad core parts again is somewhat mindboggling, feeling like I have just pulled out one of those first dual core systems when they hit the enthusiast mainstream segment.  I am glad that several years down the line they are now the low-end part of the market, and it raises the bar of the minimum performance of a desktop into something more usable as well as a rise in the quality and grunt of integrated graphics, all within a low cost framework.

To cut straight to the chase, our review here pitted all four new AMD Kabini AM1 Socketed Desktop APUs against the two Intel Bay Trail-D SoCs that matched up closer in specifications.  Both sides of the coin features 2-4 cores ranging from 1.3 GHz to 2.4 GHz, as well as integrated graphics solutions to sufficiently tackle all regular daily tasks asked of them.  The best match up was the AMD Athlon 5350, a quad core 2 GHz part with 128 SPs at 600 MHz against the Intel J1900, a quad core 2 GHz (2.4 GHz Turbo) part with 6 EUs at 688 MHz.

AMD Athlon 5350 vs. Intel Celeron J1900
  Athlon 5350 Celeron J1900
CPU Architecture Jaguar Silvermont
CPU Cores 4 4
CPU Frequency 2.05 GHz 2.0 GHz / 2.4 GHz Turbo
GPU Cores 128 SPs 6 EUs
GPU Frequency 600 MHz 688 MHz
Memory Channels Single Dual
Memory Frequency 1600 MHz 1333 MHz
L2 Cache 2 MB 2 MB
TDP 25 W 10 W
Price $59 $82

If we directly compare these two, we see a range of different characteristics.  The Intel CPU takes the crown in floating point tests, potentially indicating a better scheduler when dealing with floating point numbers.  The 3DPM test shows that here, as well as some of the more general purpose benchmarks such as the Media/Data segments of SYSmark 2014.  There is also the power consumption to consider, as the Bay Trail-D CPUs have only a 10W TDP.  The Athlon 5350 takes the majority of the integer based operations, such as Cinebench and FastStone, as well as the TrueCrypt benchmark due to its included AES-NI hardware acceleration.  Other items such as the web benchmarks showed little difference between AMD and Intel.

However where the Athlons stand out is in the associated IGP benchmarks.  In our 1280x1024 low resolution game tests, the top two Athlons (5350, 5150) approached 30 FPS average whereas the Bay Trail-D CPUs struggled with half that frame rate.  The same comes down to synthetics (3DMark), although some of the more CPU focused game benchmarks (draw calls) narrowed the gap.

When it comes to discrete GPU tests, as our Intel samples only had a closed PCIe 2.0 x1 slot, we were unable to compare directly with AMD’s Kabini.  In the global scope of things however, the AMD Kabini platform paired with a high powered GPU (AMD 7970, GTX 770) managed 30 FPS+ in 9 out of 12 of our benchmarks at 1080p with maximum detail using the Athlon 5350.  Even in Battlefield 4 single player with these high settings, a 20.7 FPS minimum indicates that a few notches down on image quality makes it readily playable.  However using such a powerful GPU is perhaps not the best scope for such a platform.

When using the systems and running the tests, it was clear with the two Semprons that during basic use, such as web browsing and navigation, it did feel a little slower than what I was used to. The web browsing tests show that up quite well, with the Kraken benchmark showing a +50% slower time to complete on the quad core Sempron vs. the top level Athlon.  This delay was not show stopping, and using an SSD alongside the system almost certainly helped with that.

Another point of sale for AMD Kabini will be in integrated systems, such as digital signage, library computers or similar.  From this perspective, as long as the system is not doing severe rendering on the fly (such as more than 1280x1024 on low with modern engines) but needs more computational power than say a Raspberry Pi, then the Kabini AM1 platform offers a good implementation and a low cost.  The next step from here would be to see small form factor devices that could also be upgradeable - something that could fit onto a VESA mount perhaps.

dGPU Benchmarks with ASUS HD7970
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  • Ian Cutress - Thursday, May 29, 2014 - link

    I've taken test data from all of my old testing as well, where I've run the same benchmarks on the same OS and SSD, hence why there are many data points to choose from. I have adjusted several of the graphs to have a narrower band of data showing to more easily see the difference now. Unfortunately the even older data (pre Core 2) is before my time at AnandTech.

    Regarding the J1800/J1900 motherboards, the two that I hurried in for testing were unfortunately limited in the GPU aspect and a third one I have since received is also in the same boat. Due to the hurried nature of getting the data from the initial release (as well as other testing on hand) I had perhaps wrongly assumed that all J1800/J1900 motherboards were in the same boat.

    I am shifting my test stations around somewhat this week, so when I come back from Computex I will have more of a low power/DRAM testing setup alongside the higher power systems I normally test. If you want to see anything specific, please feel free to email.
  • edwpang - Friday, May 30, 2014 - link

    It's definitely makes better sense than current review. As someone has already, using 1250w PS on this low end setup is kindly uselessly.
  • piroroadkill - Thursday, May 29, 2014 - link

    Truecrypt link seems like a bad idea right now, since the official Truecrypt site is in a terrible state of limbo where nobody can figure out whether it's discontinued by the devs or been hacked. Benchmarks for 7.1a are relevant, but 7.2 is a gutted, useless pile of crap. Just saying.
  • A5 - Thursday, May 29, 2014 - link

    It's good thing the bench is 7.1a then?
  • Ian Cutress - Thursday, May 29, 2014 - link

    Ha! I thought about taking the data out given that I had already uploaded almost all it before that announcement was made. However 7.1a is still viable and I still have the installer, so it might still be relevant if the installer still floats around in cyberspace. I somehow doubt we will ever get a full explanation from the developers on why they took it down, though there are many theories about it.
  • Runamok81 - Thursday, May 29, 2014 - link

    Typo, second to last sentence. platgorm
  • someeeguy - Thursday, May 29, 2014 - link

    Ian, in the "dGPU Benchmarks with ASUS HD7970" portion of your review, it would have been interesting to see some Mantle results on these low power CPUs.
  • JBVertexx - Thursday, May 29, 2014 - link

    I think the value in having a socket solution is less about providing an upgrade path and more about lower carrying costs in the entire supply chain.

    If you look at having 4 CPU combinations over lets say 4 motherboard options, having a BGA solution means that you need to source and stock 16 different items. With a socket solution, that cuts your inventory and carrying cost down to 8 items.

    The economics of this are huge. It impacts motherboard manufacturers, system builders, and businesses. It impacts the amount of up front investment required by every organization in the supply chain, and it impacts the inventory costs (or carrying capital).

    It especially impacts motherboard manufacturers, who must actually purchase the CPU in a BGA solution in order to sell a motherboard.

    In the face of those compelling economics, having an upgrade path is really small potatoes.
  • marvee - Thursday, May 29, 2014 - link

    The understanding of those economics could be the experience of Rory Read, from his time with Lenovo.
  • Hrel - Thursday, May 29, 2014 - link

    Pretty disappointing you guy didn't include a CPU with HD4600 on it in the gaming benchmarks. Why compare to last generation's hardware? Perhaps to show AMD in as favorable a light as possible? hmmmmm.....

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