The Intel Haswell Refresh Review: Core i7-4790, i5-4690 and i3-4360 Tested
by Ian Cutress on May 11, 2014 3:01 AM ESTSYSMark and Scientific Benchmarks
SYSmark 2014
SYSmark is developed by BAPCo, the Business Applications Performance Corporation, which includes in its current members Intel, Dell, Lenovo, Microsoft, Samsung, Sony, and Toshiba. The latest version of SYSmark, SYSmark 2014, uses the latest software packages from Adobe and Microsoft and meshes them together into a stringent testing package that can take a couple of hours to run. The end result gives marks for in office productivity, media creation and data/financial analysis sections as well as an overall result. SYSmark uses a standard office computer (an i3-4130 with a 500GB mechanical drive, 4GB DRAM, 1080p, integrated HD4400 graphics) to provide a benchmark score of ‘1000’, and all results are compared to this. Our testing runs the processors at 1080p with integrated graphics on an OCZ Vertex 3 240GB SSD.
As we have not tested SYSmark 2014 with other CPUs yet, our results are rather limited, however the overall results are in line with what we would expect.
Point Calculations – 3D Movement Algorithm Test: link
3DPM is a self-penned benchmark, taking basic 3D movement algorithms used in Brownian Motion simulations and testing them for speed. High floating point performance, MHz and IPC wins in the single thread version, whereas the multithread version has to handle the threads and loves more cores.
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name99 - Sunday, May 11, 2014 - link
"For longer cadences it makes sense to launch an improved product in the middle of that cadence taking advantage of minor production improvements."Nice save, Ian, but let's be honest here. This product is being launched for one, and only one reason --- Broadwell is delayed, and this is the best Intel can do to fill the gap and quieten the anger from customers (like Apple) who've had to delay all their plans because of the Broadwell slip.
GuardianAngel470 - Sunday, May 11, 2014 - link
On page two: "At this point in time it is clear that the i7-4670K and i7-4770K models do not have refresh counterparts..."That first i7 seems to be an i5 in disguise. You may want to beef up your internal security, it seems you have been discretely infiltrated.
Ian Cutress - Monday, May 12, 2014 - link
Nice catch :) Fixed!meacupla - Sunday, May 11, 2014 - link
I only care about that 20th anniversary edition Pentiumhojnikb - Monday, May 12, 2014 - link
Yep, me too :)Ramon Zarat - Sunday, May 11, 2014 - link
LMAO... My ASRock Z68 Extreme4 GEN3 from 2011, 4 generations behind this Z97, offers me 98%+ of the functionality and speed!Ok, I have a moded BIOS to get my 2 X SSD to run in RAID0 (man, I hate artificial market segmentation) and get well over 900MB/s sequential read, but beside that, NOTHING revolutionary from Intel Z97 to make wish to upgrade from what I already have!
Already got plenty of USB3 ports with 4 total (only a handful of devices can actually use full USB3 speed anyway), the PCIe lanes from the GPU are already GEN3 thanks to ASRock GEN3 series, I have a much more flexible I/O hub/switch (PLX PEX8608) for the 8 X PCIe 2.0 lanes from the south bridge, so EVERYTHING is concurrently *LIVE* (gigabit Ethernet, USB3, *ALL* PCIe lanes etc...), so need to choose a limited setup and call it "flexible" LOL...
2 X SATA 6Gb/s for my 2 SSDs is enough, as the other 4 SATA 3Gb/s are also more than enough for mechanical hard drives. I don't see HDD busting the 3Gb/s barrier anytime soon. I even have a Marvell SATA controller on top for either e-SATA or 2 X internal optical drives. Also, I'm already booting from SSD, so the PCIe SSD booting mean nothing to me. From cold start to login screen in less than 25 seconds and I always put the computer to sleep anyway, so boot time is actually less than 3 second 99% of the time so that EUFI fast boot also means nothing to me.
With a 4.7Ghz quad core CPU and 16GB of 1600Mhz CL8 RAM, I'll keep this rig for a long, long LONG time! The only upgrade I see in 4-5 years is maybe 2 larger SSDs and a maybe a new DX12 video card when they become cheap AND plenty of games requires DX12. We have been GPU limited for a long time now and I don't see that changing 5 years from now where my current CPU will still be more than enough to push a DX12 GPU @ 1080p (I won't switch to 4K resolution before my next PC in 7-10 years from now).
The desktop might not be dead, but it surely reached a point where it's so powerful, it's good enough for so many things you do, you actually don't need to upgrade every 36 months anymore.
For example, MP3 are now converted practicality instantaneously and HD content only take a few minutes. You can do HUGE spreadsheets calculation is mere seconds, Photoshop effects as well etc... One of the only thing still too CPU intensive is Hollywood grade 3D rendering and for that, we now use rendering farms with GPGPU, local or in the cloud, tens of thousand of time faster than any desktop.
I have the feeling my next PC will not be a silicon based technology!
wetwareinterface - Sunday, May 11, 2014 - link
you have 2x ssd's in raid 0 claiming 900MB/s and your boot time tot login screen is under 25 seconds?i have a single older samsung 240 non pro/evo 250 GB drive and my boot time to desktop with all drivers loaded and internet connected is, after manually logging in btw, around 15 seconds.
maybe you shouldn't dismiss an upgrade too quickly
wetwareinterface - Sunday, May 11, 2014 - link
that's a cold boot time alsoRamon Zarat - Monday, May 12, 2014 - link
Well, that's 1 big difference right there; you don't boot in RAID mode, therefore you don't have the ~5 seconds RAID BIOS screen to go through as I do! Single SSD drives are practically always faster to boot compared to RAID0 SSD for that reason alone, but:I have a lot of stuff installed on an old (3+ years) Win 7 install. That makes the boot take more time. Also, the boot process involve a lot of small files, making the RAID0 less efficient (files smaller than the strip size are loaded from 1 drive instead of 2) and finally, my older Crucial M4 single drive performance is slower than your more recent Samsung that I guess is the 840 (AFAIK, there is no such thing as the Samsung 240 SSD), especially for writing. You don't mention it, but Windows 8 usually boot faster than the 7 that I use. My guess is you have a fresh Windows 8.1 install. All this explain the other ~5 seconds from my 25 to your 15.
One thing I can assure you, I'm launching games and app with larger sequential files size a lot faster than your single Samsung drive, especially because I also use a 5GB RAM drive for all my system tmp and temp folder (incredible speed boost for Photoshop Scratch disk for example). CrytalDiskMark doesn't lie.
I guess my point is, 90% of my SSD access patterns are medium/large size reads, not writes (install game/app once, play/use hundreds of times) and I re-boot my PC once every 2-3 weeks or so to "refresh" the system from a clean cold boot and it take only 25 sec. I sneeze 2-3 times in a row and I miss the boot process entirely! This is nowhere near the "it's so time consuming, I MUST upgrade" scenario. Every other time I boot, which is 95% of the time in fact, it's 3 seconds from sleep... So no, I really don't *NEED* to upgrade.
I once endured stuff like 5-10 *MINUTES* boot time with Windows 95-98, so I'll go along with 25 seconds just fine! I used to power up my PC in the morning, then getting my coffee and 2 toasts, and when I done eating my breakfast, the PC just made it to the login screen! :) Ahhhhh, the good old days of running Windows 95 from an AMD 486DX/4-120 and a 5400RPM HDD!
Just like I've said, I won't need to upgrade for a long, long time!
Flunk - Monday, May 12, 2014 - link
That's your problem right there, if you're running Windows 7 that's going to kill your boot time right there. Even my laptop that only has a Sandforce mSATA drive boots in 7 seconds using Windows 8.