Gaming Notebooks Are Thriving

Wrapping things up, I’ll include a gallery of NVIDIA’s slides at the end, but let’s quickly go over a few interesting items. NVIDIA provided some research showing that PC gaming is an extremely large industry – competing in yearly revenue with the likes of movie theater ticket sales, music, and DVD/Blu-ray video sales. Along with that growth, growth in the gaming notebooks market has been significant over the past three years, and even greater growth is expected for 2014. A large part of that is no doubt thanks to Optimus, as it allows potentially any notebook to deliver good gaming performance when you need it while not absolutely killing battery life when you don’t need the GPU. The other aspect is that we are simply seeing more GTX class notebooks shipping, thanks to GPUs like the GTX 760M/765M, and with the 850M now moving into the GTX class (which is where NVIDIA draws the line for “gaming notebooks”) we’ll see even more. But it’s not just about names; the following slide is a great illustration of what we’ve seen since 2011:

It’s not too hard to guess what the notebook on the left is (hello Alienware M17x R3), while on the right it looks like Gigabyte’s P34G. That’s not really important, but the difference in size is pretty incredible, and what’s more, the laptop on the right s actually 30% faster with GTX 850M than the GTX 580M from 2011. It also happens to deliver better battery life – gaming or otherwise. Leaner, lighter, and faster are all good things for gaming notebooks. As you would expect, there are quite a few GTX 800M notebooks coming out soon or in the very near future (while most other 800M parts will mostly come a bit later). NVIDIA provided the following images along with some other information on upcoming laptops, so if you’re in the market keep an eye out for the following (in alphabetical order).

The Alienware 17 will be updated to support both the GTX 870M and GTX 880M. ASUS’ G750JZ will update the G750JH and move from GTX 780M to GTX 880M (and apparently Optimus will be enabled this round). Gigabyte will have new versions of the P34G, the P34R with 860M and the P34J with 850M, an updated P35R (P35K core design) with 860M, and apparently updates to the P25 and P27 as well (likely with mainstream 800M class GPUs, so specifics haven’t been given yet). Lenovo’s Y50 will be their now gaming notebook, with a single GTX 860M and an optional high-DPI display. MSI will also be updating their GT70, GT60, GS70, and GS60; the GT models will support GTX 880M and 870M while the GS models will support the GTX 870M and 860M. And finally (though I suspect we’ll see Clevo, Toshiba, and Samsung announce products with GTX 800M GPUs at some point, along with perhaps some other OEMs as well), Razer Blade will have a new 14” Blade with GTX 870M and a 17” Blade Pro with GTX 860M – and no, that’s not a typo, though perhaps we’ll see more than one model of Blade Pro as it seems odd for the smaller laptop to support a faster GPU.

Finally, on the topic of the need for discrete GPUs in laptops, NVIDIA noted that over 85% of the top 30 games (according to NPD/Steam sales) remain unplayable with Intel’s HD 4400 (no surprise, as that’s basically the same performance as HD 4000), while 75% still remain unplayable with Iris 5100 – this is using 1366x768 resolution with “default settings” (presumably medium, but it’s not specifically stated). What’s missing is information on what’s playable with Iris Pro, but while I can say that most games I’ve tested on Iris Pro are able to break 30FPS average frame rates, ironically power use on the i7-4750HQ laptop I’ve tested is actually worse when gaming than most laptops with GT class 700M GPUs. NVIDIA shows this in their results as well, and while I can’t verify the numbers they claim to provide better performance with a 840M than Iris Pro 5200 while using less than half as much power.

Intel has certainly improved their iGPU performance with the last several processor generations, but unfortunately the higher performance has often come only when given more power – so for example a GT2 or GT3 Haswell part limited to 15W total TDP (i.e. in an Ultrabook) is typically no better than a GT2 Ivy Bridge part with a 17W TDP. Broadwell will likely bring us a “GT4” part (to go along with GT3e), but we’ll have to see if Intel is able to improve performance within the same power envelope when those parts start shipping later this year.

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  • adityarjun - Thursday, March 13, 2014 - link

    How would a 860m compare to a 580m?
    I have a 580m currently and find it fast enough. So if i upgrade again, i would only go for a 860m or so and make savings on the battery life.
  • JarredWalton - Friday, March 14, 2014 - link

    NVIDIA says the 850M is 30% faster than the 580M, so the 860M would be another 15% over that.
  • adityarjun - Friday, March 14, 2014 - link

    Wow!! To think that my m17x r3 is already 'slow'.
    I find the 580m to be quite awesome. The 880m must really be something.

    I know there are a lot of other variables but how long do you think a good FHD system with 860m and a processor like i7 4800mq could last on battery?
  • jtd871 - Thursday, March 13, 2014 - link

    Jarred: Having a gaming laptop with Optimus, I'm not convinced of any benefit of Optimus. Since I leave my machine plugged in all the time, it really doesn't give me any benefit. On the contrary, I have the following main issue with Optimus: sometimes software doesn't use the dGPU or the dGPU fails to kick in. I've experienced this with at least 2 titles: AutoCAD 2013 and Zen Pinball 2. In the first case, AC displays an error dialog saying it can't find a real GPU and exits to the desktop. I've actually resorted to running AC2013 on my old ThinkPad that has a discrete GPU. In the second, Zen Pinball 2 (via Steam) apparently finds and runs on the HD4000 iGPU, but is horribly laggy. (Other Steam-based titles seem to run fine.) Optimus for big, power-hungry laptops is probably a half-baked idea given how well the recent major GPUs drop to idle anyway, and I will be shopping for a discrete GPU only in the future.
  • JarredWalton - Friday, March 14, 2014 - link

    And you can't get either to work by creating a custom profile in NVIDIA's control panel? I have Zen Pinball 2 so I can at least try that, but I haven't ever used AutoCAD so I'm not help there.
  • iwod - Thursday, March 13, 2014 - link

    No Wonder why Apple are designing their own GPU, with the mess GPU maker seems to have with naming things.
  • Novaguy - Friday, March 14, 2014 - link

    Anybody know when the benchmarks come out? I'll love to see the maxwell 860m benchmarked against the 770m and the 750m/755m sli (i.e., the lenovo y510p).
  • kaellar - Friday, March 14, 2014 - link

    Hey Jarred, I'm confused a little with this quote:
    "One nice benefit of moving to the GTX class is that the 850M will require the use of GDDR5"
    It doesn't seem to be true since geforce.com states both DDR3 and GDDR5 are possible for 850m.
  • ilkhan - Sunday, March 16, 2014 - link

    So nothing all that interesting to replace my GTX770M card with.
  • Anders CT - Sunday, March 16, 2014 - link

    The RAM clocks for the gddr5 cards are specified as 2.5 GHz. Is that a mistake? Shouldn't it be in the neighbourhood of 5 GHz with 80ish GB/s memory bandwidth?

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