Gaming Notebooks Are Thriving

Wrapping things up, I’ll include a gallery of NVIDIA’s slides at the end, but let’s quickly go over a few interesting items. NVIDIA provided some research showing that PC gaming is an extremely large industry – competing in yearly revenue with the likes of movie theater ticket sales, music, and DVD/Blu-ray video sales. Along with that growth, growth in the gaming notebooks market has been significant over the past three years, and even greater growth is expected for 2014. A large part of that is no doubt thanks to Optimus, as it allows potentially any notebook to deliver good gaming performance when you need it while not absolutely killing battery life when you don’t need the GPU. The other aspect is that we are simply seeing more GTX class notebooks shipping, thanks to GPUs like the GTX 760M/765M, and with the 850M now moving into the GTX class (which is where NVIDIA draws the line for “gaming notebooks”) we’ll see even more. But it’s not just about names; the following slide is a great illustration of what we’ve seen since 2011:

It’s not too hard to guess what the notebook on the left is (hello Alienware M17x R3), while on the right it looks like Gigabyte’s P34G. That’s not really important, but the difference in size is pretty incredible, and what’s more, the laptop on the right s actually 30% faster with GTX 850M than the GTX 580M from 2011. It also happens to deliver better battery life – gaming or otherwise. Leaner, lighter, and faster are all good things for gaming notebooks. As you would expect, there are quite a few GTX 800M notebooks coming out soon or in the very near future (while most other 800M parts will mostly come a bit later). NVIDIA provided the following images along with some other information on upcoming laptops, so if you’re in the market keep an eye out for the following (in alphabetical order).

The Alienware 17 will be updated to support both the GTX 870M and GTX 880M. ASUS’ G750JZ will update the G750JH and move from GTX 780M to GTX 880M (and apparently Optimus will be enabled this round). Gigabyte will have new versions of the P34G, the P34R with 860M and the P34J with 850M, an updated P35R (P35K core design) with 860M, and apparently updates to the P25 and P27 as well (likely with mainstream 800M class GPUs, so specifics haven’t been given yet). Lenovo’s Y50 will be their now gaming notebook, with a single GTX 860M and an optional high-DPI display. MSI will also be updating their GT70, GT60, GS70, and GS60; the GT models will support GTX 880M and 870M while the GS models will support the GTX 870M and 860M. And finally (though I suspect we’ll see Clevo, Toshiba, and Samsung announce products with GTX 800M GPUs at some point, along with perhaps some other OEMs as well), Razer Blade will have a new 14” Blade with GTX 870M and a 17” Blade Pro with GTX 860M – and no, that’s not a typo, though perhaps we’ll see more than one model of Blade Pro as it seems odd for the smaller laptop to support a faster GPU.

Finally, on the topic of the need for discrete GPUs in laptops, NVIDIA noted that over 85% of the top 30 games (according to NPD/Steam sales) remain unplayable with Intel’s HD 4400 (no surprise, as that’s basically the same performance as HD 4000), while 75% still remain unplayable with Iris 5100 – this is using 1366x768 resolution with “default settings” (presumably medium, but it’s not specifically stated). What’s missing is information on what’s playable with Iris Pro, but while I can say that most games I’ve tested on Iris Pro are able to break 30FPS average frame rates, ironically power use on the i7-4750HQ laptop I’ve tested is actually worse when gaming than most laptops with GT class 700M GPUs. NVIDIA shows this in their results as well, and while I can’t verify the numbers they claim to provide better performance with a 840M than Iris Pro 5200 while using less than half as much power.

Intel has certainly improved their iGPU performance with the last several processor generations, but unfortunately the higher performance has often come only when given more power – so for example a GT2 or GT3 Haswell part limited to 15W total TDP (i.e. in an Ultrabook) is typically no better than a GT2 Ivy Bridge part with a 17W TDP. Broadwell will likely bring us a “GT4” part (to go along with GT3e), but we’ll have to see if Intel is able to improve performance within the same power envelope when those parts start shipping later this year.

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  • ThreeDee912 - Wednesday, March 12, 2014 - link

    Very minor typo on the first page.
    "The second GTX 860M will be a completely new Maxell part"

    I'm assuming "Maxell" should be "Maxwell".

    /nitpick
  • gw74 - Wednesday, March 12, 2014 - link

    why do I live in a world where thunderbolt eGPU for laptops are still not a thing and astronomically expensive, mediocre-performing gaming laptops are still a thing?
  • willis936 - Wednesday, March 12, 2014 - link

    Because outward facing bandwidth is scarce and expensive. Even with thunderbolt 2.0 (which has seen a very underwhelming adoption from OEMs) the GPU will be spending a great deal of time waiting around to be fed.
  • lordmocha - Sunday, March 16, 2014 - link

    the few videos on youtube show that it is possible to run graphics cards over TB1 4x pice, and be able to achieve 90%+ performance out of the card when connected to an external monitor and 80%+ performance when feeding back through the TB to the internal monitor

    so basically eGPU could really be a thing right now, but no-one is making a gaming targeted pcie tb connector. (sonnet's one needs an external psu if you are trying to put a gpu in it)
  • rhx123 - Wednesday, March 12, 2014 - link

    Because GPU Makers can sell mobile chips for a huge increase over desktop chips.
    A 780M, which is roughly comparable to a desktop 660 nets Nvidia a hell of a lot more cash.
    A 660 can be picked up for arround £120 these days, whereas on Clevo reseller site in my country a 770-780M upgrade costs £158.

    Nvidia knows that a large percentage of very high end gaming laptops (780M) just sit on desks and are carried around very infrequently, which could easily be undercut piecewise with a eGPU.

    My 13inch laptop, 750Ti ExpressCard eGPU, and PSU for the eGPU (XBOX 360) can still easily fit into a backpack for taking round to a friends, and costed much less than any similar performing laptop avaible at the time, and when I don't need that GPU power then I have an ultraportable 13 inch at my disposal.
  • CosmosAtlas - Wednesday, March 26, 2014 - link

    Because intel does not give permissions for making thunderbolt eGPU. I was waiting for a thunderbolt based Vidock, however it will never happen because of this.
  • willis936 - Wednesday, March 12, 2014 - link

    So I take it nvidia hasn't hinted at the possibility of g-sync chips being included in laptop panels? I think they'd make the biggest impact in laptops where sub 60 fps is practically given on newer titles.
  • JarredWalton - Thursday, March 13, 2014 - link

    I asked about this at CES. It's something NVIDIA is working on, but there's a problem in that the display is being driven by the Intel iGPU, with Optimus working in the background and rendering the frames. So NVIDIA would have to figure out how to make Intel iGPU drive the LCD properly -- and not give away their tech I suppose. I think we'll see a solution some time in the next year or two, but G-Sync is still in its early stages on desktops, so it will take time.
  • Hrel - Wednesday, March 12, 2014 - link

    I'm surprised you guys didn't say anything about the 850M not supporting SLI. I was expecting a paragraph deriding that decision by Nvidia. I'm really upset. I would have loved to see how energy efficient SLI could get. Lenovo has had that laptop with 750M in SLI for about a year now and I've thought that was kinda stupid.

    But considering how power efficient Maxwell is maybe that could actually be a good idea now.

    Maybe they'll still do it with underclocked GTX 860M's.

    Hm, I bet that's what Nvidia wanted. To discourage OEM's from buying 2 cheaper GPU's/laptop instead of ONE hugely expensive one. Prevent them from SLI'ing the best GPU in their lineup.

    Yep, pissed. I'm pissed.
  • Hrel - Wednesday, March 12, 2014 - link

    best GPU for SLI* in their lineup.

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