Meet The GeForce GTX 780 Ti

When it comes to the physical design and functionality of the GTX 780 Ti, to no surprise NVIDIA is sticking with what works. The design of the GTX Titan and its associated cooler have proven themselves twice over now between the GTX Titan and the GTX 780, so with only the slightest of changes this is what NVIDIA is going with for GTX 780 Ti, too. Consequently there’s very little new material to cover here, but we’ll quickly hit the high points before recapping the general design of what has now become the GTX 780 series.

The biggest change here is that GTX 780 Ti is the first NVIDIA launch product to feature the new B1 revision of their GK110 GPU. B1 has already been shipping for a couple of months now, so GTX 780 Ti isn’t the first card to get this new GPU. However while GTX Titan and GTX 780 products currently contain a mix of the old and new revisions as NVIDIA completes the change-over, GTX 780 Ti will be B1 (and only B1) right out the door.

As for what’s new for B1, NVIDIA is telling us that it’s a fairly tame revision of GK110. NVIDIA hasn’t made any significant changes to the GPU, rather they’ve merely gone in and fixed some errata that were in the earlier revision of GK110, and in the meantime tightened up the design and leakage just a bit to nudge power usage down, the latter of which is helpful for countering the greater power draw from lighting up the 15th and final SMX. Otherwise B1 doesn’t have any feature changes nor significant changes in its power characteristics relative to the previous revision, so it should be a fairly small footnote compared to GTX 780.

The other notable change coming with GTX 780 Ti is that NVIDIA has slightly adjusted the default temperature throttle point, increasing it from 80C to 83C. The difference in cooling efficiency itself will be trivial, but since NVIDIA is using the exact same fan curve on the GTX 780 Ti as they did the GTX 780, the higher temperature throttle effectively increases the card’s equilibrium point, and therefore the average fan speed under load. Or put another way, but letting it get a bit warmer the GTX 780 Ti will ramp up its fan a bit more and throttle a bit less, which should help offset the card’s increased power consumption while also keeping thermal throttling minimized.

GeForce GTX 780 Series Temperature Targets
GTX 780 Ti Temp Target GTX 780 Temp Target GTX Titan Temp Target
83C 80C 80C

Moving on, since the design of the GTX 780 Ti is a near carbon copy of GTX 780, we’re essentially looking at GTX 780 with better specs and new trimmings. NVIDIA’s very effective (and still quite unique) metallic GTX Titan cooler is back, this time featuring black lettering and a black tinted window. As such GTX 780 Ti remains a 10.5” long card composed of a cast aluminum housing, a nickel-tipped heatsink, an aluminum baseplate, and a vapor chamber providing heat transfer between the GPU and the heatsink. The end result is the GTX 780 Ti is a quiet card despite the fact that it’s a 250W blower design, while still maintaining the solid feel and eye-catching design that NVIDIA has opted for with this generation of cards.

Drilling down, the PCB is also a re-use from GTX 780. It’s the same GK110 GPU mounted on the same PCB with the same 6+2 phase power design. This being despite the fact that GTX 780 Ti features faster 7GHz memory, indicating that NVIDIA was able to hit their higher memory speed targets without making any obvious changes to the PCB or memory trace layouts. Meanwhile the reuse of the power delivery subsystem is a reflection of the fact that GTX 780 Ti has the same 250W TDP limit as GTX 780 and GTX Titan, though unlike those two cards GTX 780 Ti will have the least headroom to spare and will come the closest to hitting it, due to the general uptick in power requirements from having 15 active SMXes. Finally, using the same PCB also means that GTX 780 has the same 6pin + 8pin power requirement and the same display I/O configuration of 2x DL-DVI, 1x HDMI, 1x DisplayPort 1.2.

On a final note, for custom cards NVIDIA won’t be allowing custom cards right off the bat – everything today will be a reference card – but with NVIDIA’s partners having already put together their custom GK110 designs for GTX 780, custom designs for GTX 780 Ti will come very quickly. Consequently, expect most (if not all of them) to be variants of their existing custom GTX 780 designs.

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  • A5 - Thursday, November 7, 2013 - link

    BF4 has a built-in benchmark too, but I have no idea how good it is. I'd guess they're waiting on a patch?

    If nothing else, there will be BF4 results if/when that Mantle update comes out.
  • IanCutress - Thursday, November 7, 2013 - link

    BF4 has a built in benchmark tool? I can't find any reference to one.
  • Ryan Smith - Thursday, November 7, 2013 - link

    BF3 will ultimately get replaced with BF4 later this month. For the moment with all of the launches in the past few weeks, we haven't yet had the time to sit down and validate BF4, let alone collect all of the necessary data.
  • 1Angelreloaded - Thursday, November 7, 2013 - link

    Hell man people run FEAR still as a benchmark because of how brutal it is against GPU/CPU/HDD.
  • Bakes - Thursday, November 7, 2013 - link

    I think it's better to wait until driver performance stabilizes for new applications before basing benchmarks on them. If you don't then early benchmark numbers become useless for comparison sake.
  • TheJian - Thursday, November 7, 2013 - link

    I would argue warhead needs to go. Servers for that game have been EMPTY for ages and ZERO people play it. You can ask to add BF4, but to remove BF3 given warhead is included (while claiming bf3 old) is ridiculous. How old is Warhead? 7-8 years? People still play BF3. A LOT of people. I would argue they need to start benchmarking based on game sales.
    Starcraft2, Diablo3, World of Warcraft Pandaria, COD Black ops 2, SplinterCell Blacklist, Assassins Creed 3 etc etc... IE, black ops 2 has over 5x the sales of Hitman Absolution. Which one should you be benchmarking?
    Warhead...OLD.
    Grid 2 .03 total sales for PC says vgchartz
    StarCraft 2 5.2.mil units (just PC).
    Which do you think should be benchmarked?

    Even Crysis 3 only has .27mil units says vgchartz.
    Diablo 3? ROFL...3.18mil for PC. So again, 11.5x Crysis 3.

    Why are we not benchmarking games that are being sold in the MILLIONS of units?
    WOW still has 7 million people playing and it can slow down a lot with tons of people doing raids etc.
  • TheinsanegamerN - Friday, November 8, 2013 - link

    because any halfway decent machine can run WoW? they use the most demanding games to show how powerful the gpu really is. 5760x1080p with 4xMSAA gets 69 FPS with the 780ti.
    why benchmark hitman over black ops? simple, it is not what we call demanding.
    they use demanding games. not the super popular games thatll run on hardware from 3 years ago.
  • powerarmour - Thursday, November 7, 2013 - link

    Well, that time on the throne for the 290X lasted about as long as Ned Stark...
  • Da W - Thursday, November 7, 2013 - link

    I look at 4K gaming since i play in 3X1 eyefinity (being +/- 3.5K gaming).
    At these resolution i see an average of 1FPS lead for 780Ti over 290X. For 200$ more.
    Power consumption is about the same.
    And as far as temperature go, it's temperature AT THE CHIP level. Both cards will heat your room equally if they consume as much power.

    The debate is really about the cooler, and Nvidia got an outright lead as far as cooling goes.
  • JDG1980 - Thursday, November 7, 2013 - link

    It seems to me that both Nvidia and AMD are charging too much of a price premium for their top-end cards. The GTX 780 Ti isn't worth $200 more than the standard GTX 780, and the R9 290X isn't worth $150 more than the standard R9 290.

    For gamers who want a high-end product but don't want to unnecessarily waste money, it seems like the real competition is between the R9 290 ($399) and the GTX 780 ($499). At the moment the R9 290 has noise issues, but once non-reference cards become available (supposedly by the end of this month), AMD should hold a comfortable lead. That said, the Titan Cooler is indeed a really nice piece of industrial design, and I can see someone willing to pay a bit extra for it.

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