Cellular and WiFi

With the advent of MSM8974 comes the third generation of Qualcomm’s LTE modem, in this case what 8974 brings over the second generation is new Category 4 LTE (up to 150 Mbps on the downlink) over the previous generation’s Category 3 maximum, 3GPP release 10 carrier aggregation, up to 3 carriers of HSPA+ aggregated, and of course the requisite CDMA 1xAdvanced/EVDO, GSM/GPRS/EDGE.

Of course it’s up to each operator and handset maker to make their own decision regarding what features they want implemented via the choice of frontend RF components, and in the case of the Note 3 those insights will really have to wait until someone tears one down. I suspect however that with the Note 3 Samsung marches even closer to a single worldwide SKU or at least fewer SKUs for each region. In the case of the T-Mobile Note 3, there’s disclosure for the banding that I would expect in the FCC documents, Bands 2, 4, 5, and 17 LTE are supported, at minimum, I wouldn’t be surprised to see 7 and 20 also supported in the same hardware. I strongly suspect we’re looking at a situation similar to the SGS4 where there was shared platform and front end between AT&T, T-Mobile, and Canada. I haven’t had time however to go through and look at all the Note 3 variants and their banding, and as usual Samsung doesn’t disclose their band combinations up front.

Without 20 MHz FDD LTE to test on T-Mobile, there’s not much we can really say about Category 4 in the context of the Note 3 review. In other markets with 20 MHz FDD LTE however this will open up additional throughput headroom that some already are up against.

The Note 3 continues to have Samsung’s great ServiceMode option for looking at signal characteristics like RSRP, channel bandwidth, and forcing whatever bands you want. However Samsung did remove the unlock shortcuts that were popularized for the previous Galaxy S series and Notes through the debugging screens and phone control menu. This also happens at the same time Samsung has started region locking devices.

As devices move closer to being truly universal with more LTE bands, I wouldn’t be surprised to see more of this kind of arbitrary locking being used to keep operator verticals in place and protect markets.

I had no issues with the Note 3 in both 5 MHz FDD LTE markets like NYC where I did some of my testing, and my home market in Arizona which is 10 MHz FDD LTE on T-Mobile.

Antenna placement on the Note 3 is pretty pragmatic as well, at least on this variant. One big main antenna for transmit on all the bands supported by the hardware, and a second diversity antenna for LTE and WCDMA.

A big new thing in the Note 3 is the inclusion of a component from Qualcomm’s RF360 portfolio, the QFE1100 envelope power tracker, making it the first device to do so. This reduces overall thermal footprint and power consumption on the RF front end by varying the voltage across the power amplifier (which previously was a fixed DC voltage) to match the waveform of the transmitted signal. The envelope tracker essentially is a power supply with a closed loop between the baseband and the power amplifier, which enables the power amplifier to closely follow the desired transmitted waveform. Envelope trackers help mitigate the power waste that comes with high peak to average power ratio inherent to OFDMA (LTE) by closely matching the power amplifier voltage supply to the output signal. This allows the power amplifier to work much closer to the peak of its power added efficiency (PAE) curve, especially when the input signal envelope is low, by tracking the amplitude of the input signal.

 
ET (Envelope Tracking), and APT (Average Power Tracking) on Note 3

Watching ServiceMode on the Note 3 is a real treat since you can see PA State change between a few different modes, APT/PT/ET which I suspect translate to average power tracking, power tracking, and envelope tracking modes, again confirming the presence of the power tracker. Qualcomm has a post up about the QFE1100 and its use in the Note 3.

GNSS

With 8974 also comes another newer version of Qualcomm’s GNSS (Global Navigation Satellite System) software suite. The previous generation (GNSS Gen 8/8A) included support for GPS and Russia’s GLONASS system. The new one onboard 8974 and forward moves to GNSS 8B which includes support for GPS, GLONASS, and China’s Beidou constellation.

At present there’s no way for me to validate whether Beidou support is working on any of the 8974 phones I have, because the coverage for that constellation is not global but rather limited to a slice in the Asia-Pacific region. I’m not aware of any other improvements inside GNSS 8B, but Qualcomm’s GNSS has always been excellent for me, locking quickly even indoors or in urban canyon scenarios. The Note 3 performs very well and locks quickly and I don’t have any issues to speak of.

WiFi

I didn’t expect much to change on the Note 3 from SGS4 in terms of WiFi connectivity, but I got an interesting surprise. Instead of the BCM4335 combo which was ubiquitous in this last round for WiFi/BT/FM radio, there’s the newer generation BCM4339 combo which integrates the necessary power amplifiers and front end components for a lower cost solution.

BCM4339 is still a single spatial stream part with support for 802.11a/b/g/n/ac, and on 802.11ac support for up to 80 MHz channels with 256QAM under MCS9, for a PHY rate of 433.3 Mbps, which is what we’ve seen before with 4335. Again what’s new is the integration of the 2.4 and 5 GHz power amplifiers for transmit and low noise amplifiers the receive chain, as well as the other necessary front end components, although handset makers can still choose to support their own external ones. This drives integration cost down and hopefully means 802.11ac will find its way into more places.

WiFi Performance - iPerf

I tested the Note 3 using iPerf the same way I have other phones for a while now and saw some weird behavior. WiFi throughput during my test jumped around quite a bit and even on the 433 Mbps PHY rate the maximum sustained rate I could get was around 135 Mbps. Still very fast, but not quite up as high as some of the other 802.11ac phones I’ve tested.

I don’t like that there’s no band preferences option under the advanced menu anymore, although this seems to be a thing operators want removed (which makes no sense to me, but whatever). The Note 3 does add an auto network switch toggle which seems to be a feature Qualcomm has added to its BSP lately to allow for intelligent switching between WiFi and cellular when the WiFi network you’re attached to isn’t delivering any packets. I also noticed that the Note 3 will shut down the data session for cellular when you’re attached to WiFi as well to cut down on power use, something a few other vendors have done for a while.

Speaker and Noise Rejection

With the Note 3, Samsung changes up the normal speakerphone location dramatically, from the back side coming out of the battery cover to a new place blasting out the bottom lip of the Note 3 through a grille. I tested speakerphone on the Note 3 the same way I have other devices, by placing a call, cranking volume up to maximum, and using a data logging sound pressure meter to record and average the entire call.

Speakerphone Volume - 3 inches Away

Oddly enough, speakerphone is very quiet on the Note 3 and isn’t nearly as loud as SGS4. More puzzling, tapping the extra volume button doesn’t seem to do anything at all if you’re attached to WiFi, however the button works if you’re not attached to WiFi (and thus the background data connection is enabled). This seems like a bug to me, as it’s very quiet compared to the competition, and unfortunate since part of the Note 3 is that expectation of a great multimedia experience with the big display.

A big change in the Note 3 is the inclusion of a new generation of Audience voice processor, the Audience eS325 which we’ve talked about before, which includes support for using three microphones for ambient noise reduction. Interestingly it turns out the SGS4 had 3 microphones and this same solution, but only ever used them in pairs (the third was next to the earpiece and only used during speakerphone calls). The Note 3 has three very visible microphones, one at top, one at bottom, one on the bottom right side.

Audience enables noise reduction on narrowband (8kHz), wideband(16kHz), and super wideband (24kHz) calls with this new generation with the three microphones. This new solution also adds de-reverb which helps reduce the reflections audible when calling from an enclosed room, something the previous generation didn’t have.

To test I ran through the same test we’ve done in the past, I speak into the handset in front of speakers playing a babble distractor track up to a certain sound pressure level, and then back down. I added in a speakerphone mode (far talk) mode as well just for comparisons, with the noise reduction toggle that Samsung makes available in the phone dialer toggled on and off, for comparisons. I called between a T-Mobile Galaxy S 4 and the Note 3 on T-Mobile, which gave us 12.65 kbps AMR-WB (“HD Voice”) voice call, in a spectogram of the recording we can also see components above the 4 kHz filter for a normal narrowband voice call (narrowband is again 8 kHz sampling, AMR-WB uses 16 kHz sampling, after nyquist we pass 4 kHz and 8 kHz respectively).

 

The eS325 does a good job rejecting the babble track without rejecting a lot of the incoming voice or making me sound distorted. I’m always impressed that anything is audible at the maximum volumes as these are literally so loud I can’t hear myself talking into the handset and probably not conditions normal people would call under anyways. Noise rejection on these larger phablet or Note sized phones is also a challenge since the microphone pairs are far apart and the mouth is physically further from the microphones than they normally would be, so I’m impressed with overall performance considering those constraints.

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  • ddriver - Tuesday, October 1, 2013 - link

    No, samsung want to shun the "gray market" resellers. This is a move against them, but I doubt they will have a hard time, considering all they need to do is insert a local sim to activate the phone, so don't worry, you will most likely be able to get your note 3 from a gray market if you want it that badly.

    I don't think traveling abroad to get a phone is common practice, if anything, you won't save any money. Why traveling abroad to get something you can get at your local store?
  • Spunjji - Tuesday, October 8, 2013 - link

    Squuiid doesn't like facts.
  • TrevorH - Tuesday, October 1, 2013 - link

    Did you read the article I linked to, the one that says "clear as mud" where they tested this claim about inserting a native-region sim and found that it was still impossible to use it with one from another region afterwards.
  • ddriver - Tuesday, October 1, 2013 - link

    Maybe a bug that needs fixing. Samsung made their intent perfectly clear. Plus they are not really in the position to afford such a scheme.
  • djboxbaba - Tuesday, October 1, 2013 - link

    The guy has zero sense of objectivity, I wouldn't bother offering him any tested claims.
  • Ph0b0s - Tuesday, October 1, 2013 - link

    I think all the people on this thread would disagree: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?s=5...

    These are reports from people who have brought unlocked Note 3's, used a local sim to activate and make calls for a few days and then had problems when traveling abroad.

    So no the region lock still is a big issue, even with Samsung's denial. Also see the responses from Samsung that have been all over the place as to what customer should expect. They deserve the sales hit, as this is a fiasco, coming to older devices via the 4.3 update in the near future....
  • ddriver - Tuesday, October 1, 2013 - link

    Your link is broken. At any rate, I'd abstain from spreading FUD if I were you (unless you are guided by brand loyalty to a particular rotten fruit) - the matter will become clear in a few days.
  • bubblesmoney - Tuesday, October 1, 2013 - link

    not everyone who criticises this region block is an iOS fan. all my devices are android and several are samsung. stop accusing others of brand loyalty to a rotten fruit. Let anyone use any device that suits them, i prefer my android but i hate the new region lock feature in the note 3 which is coming to all existing note2, s3, s4, mini devices in kitkat update retroactively screwing all existing customers of samsung devices like me. I have the note and an s4 and was about to buy the note 3 till i heard about the region locking.

    i have posted most of the relavant links in my comments on the trusted reviews article http://www.trustedreviews.com/opinions/galaxy-note... so wont bother reposting them again and will instead link that article where you can see my comments which link to youtube video proof, various users spread around the world commenting about region locks on their phones on xda and some links to the mcc lists on Eu and middle east versions of the phones.

    also see amazon reviews where i have posted links to the region lock photos of the usa, eu and middle east versions among many other things. please see the comments too where i have posted extracts of many users who are affected commenting on xda. http://www.amazon.co.uk/review/R1JZ99ICG57AY3/ref=...
  • ddriver - Tuesday, October 1, 2013 - link

    Not everyone, but what about one with such dedication as yours? To me it seems that you actually hope the issue is real and are eager for samsung to suffer consequences. As I said, the issue will be cleared the following days, don't forget the note 3 is a brand new product, and as such might come with immature software and potential bugs. It's not like the 5s software was perfect at launch too, there was the lock bypass bug, which is pretty serious flaw, easily eclipsing a regional lock bug in some cases. Software updates fix this, the same applies to an eventual regional lock bug.

    Maybe the issue is real, I am not claiming it is not, if you were under similar impression. If so, I guess people who do a lot of travel and talk won't be getting that particular phone. But again, I don't think samsung is in the position to make such moves.
  • bubblesmoney - Tuesday, October 1, 2013 - link

    they are the biggest seller of android phones by a large margin and have a commanding presence to be able to make deals with networks as to who gets on the mcc blacklist and who does not, guess based on how much back handers they get from the networks for forcings its users to use that networks roaming charges instead of local sims. its only a matter of time samsung gets screwed by the regulators everywhere for colluding in managing the roaming preferences in this manner. even more irritating as i cant get kitkat update unless i accept the region lock applied by samsung. see pocketnow report about that. yes i am pissed off that my present s4 and note will get region lock reducing its resale value. I was planning on selling one of them to get the note3. hence me being pissed off as i am directly affected. I would like all my sim free fully paid for phones to work anywhere in the world when i visit my family in the usa, asia and not be gimped by samsung. yes the issue is real and i just want more publicity so that samsung is forced to retract from this anti consumer policy of region locking new phones and also region locking old phones already sold with new software updates. read the T&C of any new software update from samsung carefully from now on

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