Intel's Xeon E5-2600 V2: 12-core Ivy Bridge EP for Servers
by Johan De Gelas on September 17, 2013 12:00 AM ESTConclusions
Intel has again done a remarkably good job with the Xeon "Ivy Bridge EP". Adding more cores can easily lead to bad scaling or even to situations where performance decreases. The new Xeon E5 adds about 30% performance across the line, in more or less the same power envelope. Single-threaded performance does not suffer either (though it also fails to improve in most scenarios). Even better, Intel's newest CPU works inside the same socket as its predecessor. That's no small feat, as there have been changes in core count and uncore, and as a result the electrical characteristics change too.
At the end of last year, AMD was capable of mounting an attack on the midrange Xeons by introducing Opterons based on the "Piledriver" core. That core improved both performance and power consumption, and Opteron servers were tangibly cheaper. However, at the moment, AMD's Opteron is forced to leave the midrange market and is relegated to the budget market. Price cuts will once again be necessary.
Considering AMD's "transformed" technology strategy , we cannot help but be pessimistic about AMD's role in the midrange and high-end x86 server market. AMD's next step is nothing more than a somewhat tweaked "Opteron 6300". Besides the micro server market, only the Berlin CPU (4x Steamroller, integrated GPU) might be able to turn some heads in HPC and give Intel some competition in that space. Time will tell.
In other words, Intel does not have any competition whatsoever in the midrange and high-end x86 server market. The best Xeons are now about 20% more expensive, but that price increase is not tangible in most markets. The customers buying servers for ERP, OLTP and virtualization will not feel this, as a few hundred dollars more (or even a couple thousand) for the CPUs pales in comparison to the yearly software licenses. The HPC people will be less happy but many of them are spending their money on stream processors like the Xeon Phi, AMD Firestream, or NVIDIA Tesla. Even in the HPC market, the percentage of the budget spent on CPUs is decreasing.
Luckily, Intel still has to convince people that upgrading is well worth the trouble. As a result you get about 25% more multi-threaded/server performance, about 5-10% higher single-threaded performance (a small IPC boost and a 100MHz speed bump), and sligthly lower power consumption for the same price. It may not be enough for some IT departments, but those that need more performance within the same power envelope will probably find a lot to like with the new Xeons.
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JohanAnandtech - Friday, September 20, 2013 - link
I have to admit were are new to SPECjbb 2013. Any suggestions for the JVM tunings to reduce the GC latency?mking21 - Wednesday, September 18, 2013 - link
Surely its more interesting to see if the 12 core is faster than the 10 and 8 core V2s.Its not obvious to me that the 12 Core can out perform the 2687w v2 in real world measures rather than in synthetic benchmarks. The higher sustained turbo clock is really going to be hard to beat.
JohanAnandtech - Wednesday, September 18, 2013 - link
There will be a follow-up, with more energy measurements, and this looks like a very interesting angle too. However, do know that the maximum Turbo does not happen a lot. In case of the 2697v2, we mostly saw 3 GHz, hardly anything more.mking21 - Wednesday, September 18, 2013 - link
Yes based on bin specs 3Ghz is what I would expect from 2697v2 if more than 6 or more cores are in use. 5 or more cores on 2687wv2 will run @ 3.6Ghz. While 2690v2 will run 3.3Ghz with 4 or more cores. So flat out the 12 core will be faster than 10 core will be faster than 8 core - but in reality hard to run these flat out with real-world tasks, so usually faster clock wins. Look forward to u sharing some comparative benchmarks.psyq321 - Thursday, September 19, 2013 - link
3 GHz is the maximum all-core turbo for 2697 v2.You are probably seeing 3 GHz because several cores are in use and 100% utilized.
JohanAnandtech - Friday, September 20, 2013 - link
With one thread, the CPU ran at 3.4 GHz but only for very brief periods (almost unnoticeable).polyzp - Saturday, September 21, 2013 - link
AMD's Kaveri IGPU absolutley destroys intel iris 5200! Look at the first benchmarks ever leaked! +500% :OAMDFX .blogspot.com
Jajo - Tuesday, October 1, 2013 - link
E5-2697v2 vs. E5-2690 +30% performance @ +50% cores? I am a bit disappointed. Don't get me wrong, I am aware of the 200 Mhz difference and the overall performance per watt ratio is great but I noticed something similar with the last generation (X5690 vs. E5-2690).There are still some single threaded applications out there and yes, there is a turbo. But it won't be aggressive on an averagely loaded ESXi server which might host VMs with single threaded applications.
I somehow do not like this development, my guess is that the Hex- or Octacore CPUs with higher clocks are still a better choice for virtualization in such a scenario.
Just my 2 cents
Chrisrodinis - Wednesday, October 23, 2013 - link
Here is an easy to understand, hands on video explaining how to upgrade your server by installing an Intel E5 2600 V2 processor: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duzrULLtonMDileepB - Thursday, October 31, 2013 - link
I think 12 core diagram and description are incorrect! The mainstream die is indeed a 10 core die with 25 MB L3 that most skus are derived from. But the second die is actually a 15 core die with 37.5 MB. I am guessing (I know I am right :-))That they put half of the 10 core section with its QPIs and memory controllers, 5 cores and 12.5 MB L3 on top and connected the 2 sections using an internal QPI. From the outside it looks like a 15 core part, currently sold as a 12 core part only. A full 15 core sku would require too much power well above the 130W TDP that current platforms are designed for. They might sell the 15 core part to high end HPC customers like Cray! The 12 core sku should have roughly 50% higher die area than the 10 core die!