Round Two, Still Quad-Core

I have to give NVIDIA credit, back when it introduced Tegra 3 I assumed its 4+1 architecture was surely a gimmick and to be very short lived. I remember asking NVIDIA’s Phil Carmack point blank at MWC 2012 whether or not NVIDIA would standardize on four cores for future SoCs. While I expected a typical PR response, Phil surprised me with an astounding yes. NVIDIA was committed to quad-core designs going forward. I still didn’t believe it, but here we are in 2013 with NVIDIA’s high-end and mainstream roadmaps both exclusively featuring quad-core SoCs. NVIDIA remained true to its word, and the more I think about it, the more the approach makes sense.

In the PC industry we learned that there’s no real downside to quad-core as long as you can power gate individual cores, and turbo up to higher frequencies when fewer than four cores are active, there’s no real tradeoff other than cost. You get good multithreaded performance when you need it, and single threaded performance doesn’t suffer. Tegra 3 complicated things because it was on an older, more power hungry process when Qualcomm introduced its first Krait parts. Tegra 4 on the other hand comes to market on the absolute latest and greatest 28nm HPL process from TSMC. And like Tegra 3, each Cortex A15 core in Tegra 4 can be independently power gated.

Like most of the evolution in the mobile space, NVIDIA skipped the silly transitional period between dual and many core and just ended up exactly where it knows the story ends. Heavily threaded apps are still rare on mobile OSes, but with each core independently power gated the user shouldn’t pay a penalty for them being there as long as NVIDIA and the device vendor don’t configure the DFVS tables improperly.

The downside is cost, not to the end user, but to NVIDIA. Economically, NVIDIA was able to make Tegra 3 work for itself with a die size somewhere around 80mm^2. The move to 28nm allowed NVIDIA to increase transistor count, without straying from that die size. Tegra 4 is a bit larger than Tegra 3, but it’s still somewhere in that 80mm^2 range.

Wafer costs for 28nm HPL are undoubtedly higher than 40nm LPG at TSMC, not to mention any differences in yield between T3 and T4, so without a doubt Tegra 4 will cost NVIDIA more than Tegra 3. All of that being said however, NVIDIA still seems to take a conservative approach to die sizes in mobile, which gives it the flexibility to significantly undercut Qualcomm in costs to OEMs. I do believe this was a key part of NVIDIA’s success last year with Tegra 3 ending up in both the Nexus 7 and Microsoft’s Surface RT. Long term, simply selling your SoCs for less than the competition isn’t a path to market dominance, but being able to do so helps buy NVIDIA time while it gathers the remaining missing pieces of the mobile platform (integrated baseband, RF front end, WiFi, etc...). Tegra 4 isn’t the sort of drive the industry forward type of silicon we’re used to seeing from NVIDIA, but it’s sized appropriately given NVIDIA’s position in the market. From a business standpoint, NVIDIA is making the right decisions to ensure the Tegra business at least has a chance of succeeding.

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  • Death666Angel - Wednesday, February 27, 2013 - link

    Get a life.
  • StormyParis - Sunday, February 24, 2013 - link

    I'd go with Anand, anytime. Charlie is a raving bitch.
  • mayankleoboy1 - Sunday, February 24, 2013 - link

    Except that this raving bitch has accurately predicted the future course of most companies months before anybody.
  • Avalon - Monday, February 25, 2013 - link

    If by accurate you mean he made many predictions for every company and when one of the predictions came true everyone forgot about all the wrong ones. He guesses.
  • Kiste - Monday, February 25, 2013 - link

    Confirmation bias ahoy!
  • AmdInside - Monday, February 25, 2013 - link

    Are you kidding me? Even congress lies less than Charlie does.
  • jjj - Sunday, February 24, 2013 - link

    I wouldn't expect a huge downclock for phones , they do need to limit heat, not going with POP for the RAM helps ,some actual cooling (air gap or metal) could also be used so they will most likely allow 1-2 cores to go pretty high and maybe all 4 for short periods of time (so the usual tricks to get more out of it).
  • R3MF - Sunday, February 24, 2013 - link

    re tegra 4 gpu architecture.

    how did you get through this many words without mentioning OpenCL?

    lack of ES 3.0 is only half the problem.
  • cmikeh2 - Sunday, February 24, 2013 - link

    He does reference it when discussing the Chimera ISP:

    "At the same time, the elephant in the room is OpenCL (and its current absence on Tegra 4) and what direction the industry will take that to leverage GPU compute for some computational photography processing."
  • guidryp - Sunday, February 24, 2013 - link

    The Icera acquisition was a brilliant one. This gives NVidia the complete mobile package. It will be very interesting to see how this works out in practice. NVidia is a fierce competitor, Qualcomm should be worried.

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