Total War: Shogun 2

Total War: Shogun 2 is the latest installment of the long-running Total War series of turn based strategy games, and alongside Civilization V is notable for just how many units it can put on a screen at once. As it also turns out, it’s the single most punishing game in our benchmark suite (on higher end hardware at least).

Similar to what AMD did with improving their DiRT 3 performance, NVIDIA has similarly improved their Shogun 2 performance. NVIDIA was previously bitten by a major performance regression introduced in a March update for Shogun 2, which significantly reduced performance at 2560 with our Ultra settings. With NVIDIA having fixed that regression through a driver update, their performance has now been restored.

Consequently this is the first game where the 7970GE can’t power ahead of the GTX 680 at 2560. The 7970GE is just fast enough to break past 30fps, but compared to the GTX 680 the latter has a 12% performance lead here, which is a big deal for NVIDIA since performance is low across the board here.

Like we saw with the GTX 670 versus the 7970 and the GTX 570 versus the 6970, performance patterns are quickly devolving to the point where any performance leads are extremely inconsistent and strongly depend on the game in question. Or in other words, we’re going to see a lot of back-and-forth movement with the 7970GE winning with some games and the GTX 680 winning with others. For better or worse there won’t be a single clear winner across every game.

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  • raghu78 - Friday, June 22, 2012 - link

    Correct. for gaming at the highest settings on ultra high resolution single monitor and multi monitor configurations there is only one leader in the market. Its the Radeon HD 7970 Ghz edition.

    http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canu...

    Look at the 2560x 1600 extreme and 5760 x 1080 perf average. The HD 7970 Ghz edition is faster .

    From the review

    "In our opinion and with all other things being equal, the HD 7970 GHz Edition is the card to have for ultra high resolution gaming"
  • CeriseCogburn - Saturday, June 23, 2012 - link

    From the review: " What we have here is a statistical tie so the consumer’s performance-oriented choice will ultimately come down to brand preference."

    Yes, of course.... cherry picking again... so take a hot loud, housefire electrical sucking earth destroying sack of driver crap... it's the best card, of course...

    That's great... all the penny pinchers here are right on it, I'm sure...
  • silverblue - Monday, June 25, 2012 - link

    Fermi?

    Low blow, I admit.
  • CeriseCogburn - Tuesday, June 26, 2012 - link

    The FERMI's performance blew the amd card to shreds.

    In this case, the house fire amd card sucks the low end of everything, an epic fail on every single metric, and amd has crap for compute software support so they lose there as well, just like any card loses when their driver software sucks in games.
    Worse yet, amd often takes years to fix anything, if ever...then drops support.

    Fermi WON when it "insulted you".

    Housefire amd loses everything - total freakin LOSER.
  • raghu78 - Tuesday, June 26, 2012 - link

    FYI there are reviews showing much bigger wins

    http://www.hardware.fr/articles/869-18/recapitulat...

    10 - 12% perf lead . So its not as simple as you think. The fact of the matter is Nvidia GTX 680 is losing the majority of games - Deus Ex, Alan Wake, Anno 2070, Crysis 2, Witcher 2, Witcher 2 EE, Dirt 3, Skyrim, Dirt Showdown, Crysis Warhead, Metro 2033. Also the margins in some of the games is very big - Dirt Showdown (50%), Crysis Warhead (15 - 25% depending on resolution) , Metro 2033 (20%), Witcher 2 (20%) , Anno (15%). Nvidia's wins in Shogun 2 clearly. BF3 is not a consistent win when you compare many reviews. Even Batman AC which runs better on GTX 680 with FXAA , runs faster on HD 7970 Ghz edition with 8X MSAA. So its clearly a case of you being in denial mode. so go on keep ridiculing others if that makes you happy.
  • CeriseCogburn - Tuesday, June 26, 2012 - link

    Hey fanboy, your summary page shows the 680 at their weighted average special importance to each game 127 frames, and 7970, 127 frames.

    LOL - Amazing how you got 20% and 50% from EQUAL.

    I tell you, the lies and spinning exceed political debate norms.
  • CeriseCogburn - Tuesday, June 26, 2012 - link

    From your link, Dirt Showdown, where you have just claimed a 50% lead for 7970...

    " If the GeForce GTX 680 Radeon HD 7970 equals 1080p without advanced lighting, when it activated its dive performance, Nvidia does not have access to this patch soon enough that in order to propose specific optimizations. It will probably take one to two weeks for this to be corrected."

    Let's see 0% or a tie = amd ahead by 50% !!!! according to raghu

    LOL - I guess it's all in your heads - not even the reviewers own words can rallte the fantasies of amd out of control fanboys.

    http://translate.google.pl/translate?hl=pl&sl=...

    I'd say you're trolling but i think the fanboy and lack of intellect has you "doing what you believed was correct".
    I could be wrong here, for the 1st time ever, though.
  • meloz - Friday, June 22, 2012 - link

    Excellent review, Ryan!

    Performance is great, but the noise is a big issue. I hope in future manufacturers pay more attention to this aspect.
  • kyuu - Friday, June 22, 2012 - link

    The 7970GE isn't a card to buy with a reference cooling solution, obviously. With custom cooling solutions, the noise/temp won't be an issue. It's doubtful you'll see many, if any, manufacturers even release this card with the reference cooler.
  • CeriseCogburn - Saturday, June 23, 2012 - link

    So amd sucks, but it's all good.

    Maybe that should be their new pr slogan.

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