Conclusion: All About IPS

When all is said and done, there’s really one item that sets the VAIO SE apart from other laptops in its price range: the 1080p IPS display. You can find laptops with decent 1080p TN panels for about the same price (e.g. the Dell XPS 15z with 1080p upgrade), and you can certainly find a lot of faster laptops and notebooks, particularly if gaming is what you’re after. What you simply can’t find is a laptop with an IPS display that can still play games, all without breaking the bank.

The Sony VAIO SE isn’t a perfect laptop by any means. My biggest issues are build quality and the switchable graphics. I have no problem with the AMD HD graphics (at least the HD 6630M—the 6470M is pretty much DOA as far as I’m concerned), but AMD’s graphics switching technology just feels outdated. NVIDIA’s Optimus Technology switches on-the-fly between IGP and discrete graphics as needed, you can still get driver updates from NVIDIA and Intel without worrying about compatibility issues, and the single valid complaint I’ve seen against Optimus is that there’s (currently) no workable solution for Linux users. Given the driver compatibility issues I encountered with the VAIO SE (not to mention the VAIO CA we looked at in September), it’s pretty clear to me that any compatibility concerns with Optimus are only going to be worse if you’re looking at AMD’s alternatives.

Regarding build quality, I understand Sony’s point about going lightweight and thin, but I’m just not convinced that was the best decision. I would like to see a more rigid LCD/cover, and the hinge is quite loose for a new laptop—I can only imagine what it will feel like after a year or two of daily use. The main body of the laptop feels so much better than the display and hinge that I can’t believe these elements all exist on the same laptop. A solid feeling magnesium alloy frame is something I usually see with higher spec laptops (e.g. ThinkPads, Latitudes, and EliteBooks), and I would gladly sacrifice 0.05” of thickness to get a similar treatment for the top cover. I’d also like to see the hinge moved up so that it doesn’t block the sole exhaust port.

But really, if you’re not planning on playing a ton of games or running GPU intensive tasks, the only major concern that remains for me is the hinge and how it will hold up long-term. Counter that with a sub-$1000 price tag for a mainstream laptop that can do everything you’re likely to want, plus you get a 1080p IPS display. For everyone that looks at our laptop reviews and says, “Oh, please, not another pathetic 1366x768 display on a 15” laptop!”, the VAIO SE is for you.

Taking a quick look at the competition, here’s how things play out right now. Dell has their XPS 15z (which we reviewed here), and it’s priced similarly to the VAIO SE; get that with a 1080p display and Dell will currently charge $1300, but you can find a much better price elsewhere: $1080 for i7-2640M, 6GB RAM, 1080p LCD, plus all the other typical stuff; that’s a good deal. The VAIO SE display is better and it’s much easier to upgrade the HDD and memory than the 15z, but the 15z hinge seems better to me and Optimus trumps AMD manually switching graphics. Another potential option is the HP Envy series; the Envy 15 looks quite nice, and it has a faster HD 7690M GPU than the VAIO’s HD 6630M, but you lose the battery life offered by switchable graphics. It will also set you back $1250 with the 1080p “Radiance display” (which is reportedly the same IPS panel as the VAIO SE) and you “only” get an i5-2450M CPU. All told, I’d give the Envy 15 the edge in overall build quality, but it loses in form factor and battery life. The HP Envy 14 Spectre is another option, but it’s priced quite a bit higher (smaller means more expensive at this range), and you get a ULV CPU in the process. Finally, the only other “mainstream IPS” laptop we haven’t mentioned is the Lenovo ThinkPad X220; it’s smaller, it has a 1366x768 LCD, and the color gamut (and likely color issues) are similar to what you get from the VAIO SE. You also lose out on the discrete GPU and you pay $1250, so it’s basically better build quality and portability for more money and less performance.

If you’re tired of lackluster TN panels and are looking for something better, I have no qualms about recommending the VAIO SE and its 1080p IPS display. The display is a big enough step in the right direction that it elevates the VAIO SE above most of its peers, provided you’re willing to live with a few compromises. I’ve been using the SE for the past month or so, doing plenty of typing and web surfing on it, and I’ve been very happy with the experience. You can read all of our quibbles about build quality and drivers, but at the end of the day if you just want a laptop that’s good for web browsing, office work, and multimedia—and you want IPS viewing angles without demanding perfect colors—the VAIO SE delivers. We’re awarding it our Bronze Editors’ Choice award for doing many things right (just like the Dell XPS 15z), and for hopefully shoving the laptop display market in the right direction.

In fact, the only major reason to not consider the VAIO SE right now is the lateness of the hour. Ivy Bridge is right around the corner, and AMD and NVIDIA have just revamped their mobile GPU offerings. It’s a given that Sony will release a new variant of the VAIO SE at some point relatively soon. If they can address the few design flaws in the VAIO SE and give us something like a GeForce GT 640M with Optimus, that will be the laptop to beat come summer time.

The Sony VAIO SE LCD: IPS++, Gamut--
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  • goobah - Wednesday, April 4, 2012 - link

    Thank you for the reply Jarred :)

    Much appriciated but I ment the castle name itself not the picture. That hilly out cropping on the sea is just so weird wanted to try google earthing it and look around:)
  • jmunjr - Wednesday, April 4, 2012 - link

    The se13fx/b is the original version of the SE series that is basically identical aside from some minor CPU/GPU upgrades on the new Se2. Mine has the i5-2430M, 4GB RAM, 6470M and same display... So yeah you can get this laptop for well under $1000 from a very reputable vendor.

    Oh and btw the Lenovo X220 with an IPS has sold for ~$750 on many occasions...
  • jabber - Wednesday, April 4, 2012 - link

    ...seemed to give middling performance.

    Still seems to be a toss up between a really good TN panel or a below average IPS as the best options.

    Not a good position really.
  • Snotling - Wednesday, April 4, 2012 - link

    My only beef with sony is the lack of availability of keyboards other than english on many of their models. Why the hell did they send a 5400rpm drive equipped unit for review is a mystery to me. Maybe they just can't avoid being stupid.
  • effingee - Wednesday, April 4, 2012 - link

    "NVIDIA’s Optimus Technology switches on-the-fly between IGP and discrete graphics as needed, you can still get driver updates from NVIDIA and Intel without worrying about compatibility issues"

    Will those driver updates have to come through Sony? If so, it could take a while and they might only release a couple of them.
  • JarredWalton - Wednesday, April 4, 2012 - link

    No, that's the beauty of Optimus: all the major OEMs participate in NVIDIA's Verde driver program, so basically every laptop with NVIDIA graphics (Optimus or discrete only) can use NVIDIA's reference drivers. The only laptops that aren't part of the Verde program (AFAIK) are laptops with manually switchable graphics--like the old ASUS UL80VT (I think that's the correct model) or the early Sony VAIO Z with GT 330M.
  • Zoomer - Saturday, April 14, 2012 - link

    Manually switchable graphics does have an edge in compatibility. No software support is needed; but a reboot might be needed to switch graphics around.
  • Christopher29 - Wednesday, April 4, 2012 - link

    That was really kind review for this laptop - I mean THIS quality (or lack of it), faulty cooling design, flexible screen and overal issues that this hardware has ... it is Amazing that it got Editors Choice.

    Well ... I highly recommend less "influenced" (biased?) reviews on notebookcheck.com. They do some serious tests and if something lacks quality, stablility (Anand do You really think that this laptop will not throttle down with this temps?) then it is always pointed clearly in bold, not "mildly mentioned".

    I've also experienced many issues with those laptops, warranty policy is ridiculous, and there are (were) cases in court in my country regarding refuse to service laptops. Sony states that after selling laptops there is no their responsibility but only company that service for them is responsible and also decide whether free repair is granted or not. Also they will not exchange LCD if there are badpixels , less than three as I remember in "central part of screen". Servicing company for SONY is sued because they refuse to repair broken lcd (vaio hinge desing and lack of sturdines brought cracking tension to screens) here is link: http://www.twojeartykuly.info/rozne/laptop-sony-va... (Or english via GTranslate: http://translate.google.pl/translate?sl=pl&tl=...
  • JarredWalton - Wednesday, April 4, 2012 - link

    First off, while this is AnandTech, Anand doesn't review all the hardware. I wrote the review, and I clearly spelled out the potential concerns. The hardware did not throttle for most use cases. If you want to run Furmark or do heavy 3D rendering or video encoding, then I'd stick with other options -- Dell's XPS 15 comes to mind as a competitive solution that can handle a quad-core CPU.

    Claiming bias just because someone likes a laptop that you haven't even used or probably seen is... well, biased. As for Notebookcheck, all they have is links to external reviews of the same laptop, most of which give the SE an 80%+ rating. That's a pretty good score in my book.

    Sounds like you just have an ax to grind with Sony, with your complaints about customer service, dead pixels, etc. If you buy a laptop in the US and you don't like it, you can pretty much always return it for a refund -- worst case you pay a 15% restocking fee. For Poland (I assume that's where you're from), maybe they're not as willing to take back hardware. But once again, you're biasing your review off of your own location.

    VAIO SE summary:
    Good IPS display, a display that's better than any TN laptop IMO, reasonable cost, good performance
    Not perfect colors, questionable exhaust location, loose hinge

    The editor's choice is almost purely for the virtue of including an IPS display for a laptop that costs less than $1000. There are many users who want exactly that. "OMG bias -- you like good displays!" Yup. Sorry.
  • Zoomer - Saturday, April 14, 2012 - link

    The temps are likely a design decision, not random. The fan probably is running at the minimum speed while keeping temps below some threshold. Sony's engineers probably decided that 90-ish degrees is acceptable.

    Screen wise, some idiot manager/marketer probably forced that through to shave an extra 0.5 mm off the thickness.

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