NVIDIA's GeForce GTX 580: Fermi Refined
by Ryan Smith on November 9, 2010 9:00 AM ESTCrysis: Warhead
Kicking things off as always is Crysis: Warhead, still one of the toughest game in our benchmark suite. Even 2 years since the release of the original Crysis, “but can it run Crysis?” is still an important question, and the answer continues to be “no.” One of these years we’ll actually be able to run it with full Enthusiast settings…
Right off the bat we see the GTX 580 do well, which as the successor to what was already the fastest single-GPU card on the market is nothing less than we expect. At 2560 it’s around 16% faster than the GTX 480, and at 1920 that drops to 12%. Bear in mind that the theoretical performance improvement for clock + shader is 17%, so in reality it would be nearly impossible get that close without the architectural improvements also playing a role.
Meanwhile AMD’s double-GPU double-trouble lineup of the 5970 and 6870CF both outscore the GTX 580 by around 12% and 27% respectively. It shouldn’t come as a shock that they’re going to win most tests – ultimately they’re priced much more competitively than the GTX 580, making them price-practical alternatives to the GTX 580.
And speaking of competition the GTX 470 SLI is in much the same boat, handily surpassing the GTX 580. This will come full circle however when we look at power consumption.
Meanwhile looking at minimum framerates we have a different story. AMD’s memory management in CrossFire mode has long been an issue with Crysis at 2560, and it continues to show here with a minimum framerate that simply craters. At 2560 there’s a world of difference between NVIDIA and AMD here, and it’s all in NVIDIA’s favor. 1920 however roughly mirrors our earlier averages, with the 580 taking a decent lead over the GTX 480, but falling to multi-GPU cards.
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StevoLincolnite - Tuesday, November 9, 2010 - link
I would have called them the 6750/6770 personally... Or at the very least the 6830/6850.There were also some architectural changes in the GTX 580 as well.
slickr - Tuesday, November 9, 2010 - link
Whats real and whats not real for you?6850 and 6870 are essentially more shaders, rops and higher clocks with few architectural improvements.
It will be same for the 6900 series.
GTX 580 again is same as the above, few architectural improvements, higher shaders, textures and clocks.
Credit must be given where its due and even though this was supposed to be the 480, its still a great product by its own, its faster, cooler, quieter and less power hungry.
ninjaquick - Thursday, December 2, 2010 - link
Umm, 6850 and 6870 are DECREASES on all but ROPs and Clocks. The architecture is only similar and very much evolutionary:numbers are: Universal Shader : Texture Mapping Unit : Render Output unit.
5850: 1440:72:32
6850: 960:48:32
5870: 1600:80:32
6870: 1120:56:32
So, 5-10% slower and 33% component shrink, which is to say ~1.4x perf increase per shader. So a full blown (6970) NI at an assumed 1600 shaders like the previous gen would be the rough equivalent of a 2400 shader evergreen when it comes to raw performance, so 1.4 to 1.5 times faster. It can be safely assumed that the shader performance will be higher than 2 5830s in CFX. 2 5830s are about 30% faster than a GTX 580.
That is theoretical performance based on a lot of assumptions and Ideal drivers. My point is NI is not a ground up redesign but it is a vastly superior and vastly different architecture to Evergreen.
boe - Thursday, November 18, 2010 - link
I can't wait to see a comparison with the 6970. I don't know which will win but it will help me decide which to get - I'm still using a 4870 so I'm ready for something new!The other thing that will help me decide is card options. The 4870 had some very nice "pre-silenced" modified cards right after release. The 6870 already has some "pre-silenced" cards on the market. The factory standard 580 is pretty loud although it is quieter than the 480 by far. I'm hoping there will be some modified 580's on the market with much quieter but at least as effective cooling solutions.
Will Robinson - Tuesday, November 9, 2010 - link
This is a much better effort than GTX480.Cooler,quieter and faster.
AMD will have a tough fight on their hands with Cayman XT versus this new part.
StevoLincolnite - Tuesday, November 9, 2010 - link
Can't wait for a price war, something that seemed to be missing with Fermi and the 5xxx series.Sihastru - Tuesday, November 9, 2010 - link
Let's hope so. This way both fanbois camps will win when it comes to how much lighter their wallets will be after their purchase (in some cases their parents wallets - only children act like fanbois).B3an - Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - link
I -wish- only children acted like fanboys. The fact is that a lot of these guys are well into there 20's and 30's.They really are pathetic people.
mino - Tuesday, November 9, 2010 - link
Well not that it was hard to beat 480 ... that part was not ready for prime time in the first place.dragonsqrrl - Wednesday, March 18, 2015 - link
...lol, facepalm.