Part 2 underway

by Anand Lal Shimpi on November 30, 2005 2:59 PM EST
The dentist wasn't nearly as bad as I expected - the one redeeming quality about living up here is that the dentist office near our house is far better than any other I've ever been to, and I'm picky about my dentists.

A lot of you want to know how Yonah overclocks and I'd love to tell you, but our little Yonah motherboard doesn't exactly support overclocking of any sort, so that's not going to happen in Part 2.

What I am trying to do for Part 2 however is do a more in-depth apples-to-apples comparison between Dothan, Yonah and the A64 X2. I've got a 2.0GHz Dothan on the way, and I'm waiting to hear back on sourcing a 915G based Dothan board so we can have both Dothan and Yonah using DDR2 memory. I'm also going to be able to offer a more updated gaming performance comparison, focusing on more current generation titles since I won't be limited to benchmarks we ran in the past.

If there are any other requests, let me know, but expect this piece to be done early next week. I haven't touched the 360 since I got my hands on this Yonah board, so I may put in some quality gaming later today while some of the longer tests are running on Yonah.
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  • Viditor - Friday, December 9, 2005 - link

    quote:

    I think it' would be much better to just isolate the CPU's power draw and use that instead

    I agree completely...but that's tough to do (not to mention dangerous for the chip) on a multilayered laptop mobo.
  • ksherman - Monday, December 5, 2005 - link

    Why do articles keep disapearing??!?! I think it has happend more times theis year than I can remember happening EVER...
  • pdoconnell - Saturday, December 3, 2005 - link

    This is sorta OT I know, but a while back there was an AMD64 overclocking guide, with a note in it about an upcoming X2 overclocking followup. Any news on that coming out anytime soon on the site?
  • IntelUser2000 - Monday, December 5, 2005 - link

    What Anand fails to realize is Dothan system is using Asus CT-479 adapter. What I noticed with Anandtech's articles is that the new test systems use default memory, while the systems that are tested AGAINST it are using tweaked timings. So DDR2-533 used for Yonah would have not optimal timings(4-4-4-8), while Asus CT-479 adapter based Dothan would be using optimal DDR400 speeds. And looking at gaming benchmarks and memory latency, it benefits a LOT from low latency memory.
  • coldpower27 - Monday, December 12, 2005 - link

    Maybe Anandtech could alleviate this problem by testing all systems with JEDEC standard latencies for memory.

    If DDR400 is used 3-4-4-8 timings.
    If DDR2-533 is used 4-4-4-12 timings.
    If DDR2-667 is used 5-5-5-15 timings.

    Or we could use the best possible timings available for both platforms.

    If DDR400 is used 2-2-2-5 timings.
    If DDR2-533 is used 3-2-2-8 timings.
    If DDR2-667 is used 3-2-2-8 timings.
  • toelovell - Friday, December 2, 2005 - link

    I am curious to see how a Yonah system would do with some basic server applications. If it is lower power, it could make a good platform for a small business server or (even though a long shot) a good platform for blade and high density server enviroments.
  • Operandi - Friday, December 2, 2005 - link

    Since one of main features of the Pentium M as well as one of Intel's future goals is low power consumption I think it would be a good time to try to improve you're testing in this area. Showing AC draw while better then nothing doesn’t tell us a lot about what the CPU is specifically doing regarding power usage.

    A good example to follow would be http://www.silentpcreview.com/article265-page1.htm...">SPCR's test with various different PC configurations. I do realize that different boards will have slightly different power requirements but it would be a far more accurate then what you are currently doing.
  • Live - Thursday, December 1, 2005 - link

    I think an Opteron 170 939 is a better match for this one then the x2 3800. The 170 has the same speed and cache.
  • Live - Thursday, December 1, 2005 - link

    As always I forgot the positive. Very interesting reading! I'm really looking forward to reading more.
  • monsoon - Thursday, December 1, 2005 - link

    Hello Anand,

    ...and thank you for another great preview !=)

    I'd like to know if the YONAH supports VT texhnology as rumored lately; i'm going to buy a mac mini yonah ( well, i hope it's coming out in january ), and to be able to double boot would be nice indeed !

    i imagine you can check this by booting LINUX and WINDOWS on your mobo ?

    THANKS

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