Final Words

Regardless of what it may seem like, this is not a repeat of AMD during the late K8 or during the Phenom days. AMD is relegated to competing in the sub-$200 space, it is actually very competitive in that space. These days, I'm sure that's not a bad position to be in. While I'm sure AMD would love to be able to demand more money for its processors, being able to demand any at all isn't a bad position to be in.


The Athlon II X4 620: Doing the Athlon Brand Justice

AMD effectively knocked 40% off the value of Intel's low end quad-core CPUs. The Athlon II X4 620 manages to, at $99, perform close enough to the Core 2 Quad Q8200 that the latter simply doesn't make any sense. Add another hundred dollars and you'll get a Core i5 750 (or less will get you into a Phenom II X4 945/955), but if you're on a strict budget you can't beat the 620.

The 630 I'm less excited about simply because it commands a 22% price premium. What the 620 has going for it is its sub-$100 entry price; start going much above that then you might as well be looking at a Phenom II X3.

In the Phenom generation AMD fought off Intel's dual cores with its own triple cores. This time AMD is fighting off Intel's dual cores with quad cores. It's clever positioning and aggressive pricing that AMD will have to employ in order to make it until Bulldozer and Fusion hit.

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  • blyndy - Friday, September 18, 2009 - link

    I don't know if they intentionally cripple fully functioning denebs. I imagined that amd would rather sell a Phx4 for ~$200 than an A2x4 for ~$100, but I might have read somewhere that both intel and amd do intentionally cripple fully functioning chips.
  • strikeback03 - Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - link

    That statement makes sense for harvested Denebs, but doesn't Propus not have any L3 at all, so it can't be turned into a PhenomII?
  • blyndy - Friday, September 18, 2009 - link

    Yes that's why I thought the quote didn't make sense -- If propus is exclusively A2x2 then the highest clocking propus' will still be A2x2's, therefore A2x2 overclocking wouldn't suffer.
  • MrPIppy - Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - link

    How is the motherboard compatibility situation looking? Will boards need a BIOS update, or just work out of the box right now?

    Also, does it support AMD virtualization instructions?

    Last, any idea about compatibility with ECC RAM? The BIOS often plays a role in this too, but just wanted to make sure AMD didn't remove ECC support from the IMC or something similar
  • TA152H - Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - link

    This is a GREAT product from AMD.

    Make it smaller, make it cheaper, and put it with a platform much better than one Intel can have.

    AMD can not make a processor worth a damn. Let's face it, they suck. If they try to compete head on with Intel, they lose, period.

    By making a quad core that is more than fast enough for most people, while at the same time reducing the size so they can make it cheaper, they created something in a segment where Intel just isn't.

    Couple this with a 790GX, or the 785, and you've got a great platform for a lot of people. If you need the best, or near it, the Bloomfield can't be touched. Why even try? Most people don't need it.

    Finally, AMD seems to get it.
  • khaakon - Thursday, September 17, 2009 - link

    I kinda agree with you here. But I cannot understand your need to paint the world in only black and white.
  • khaakon - Thursday, September 17, 2009 - link

    * edit;

    "your need" meaning TA152H
  • Eeqmcsq - Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - link

    "Finally, AMD seems to get it."
    Yes, but will they make money out of it? Only time will tell.
  • Chlorus - Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - link

    Where's that dipshit snakeoil to complain about nonexistent bias?
  • Eeqmcsq - Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - link

    He's in disguise under a new screen name. See if you can spot him in the comments so far.

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