Memory Scaling on Core i7 - Is DDR3-1066 Really the Best Choice?
by Gary Key on June 24, 2009 9:00 AM EST- Posted in
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The Rest of the Story: Applications that Don't Care About Memory Performance
Not everything is as impressive as the past two pages of results, the following applications show little or no performance improvement regardless of memory speed or timings.
Sorenson Squeeze 5.01
We are using Sorenson Squeeze to convert eight AVCHD videos into HD Flash videos for use on websites.
Performance levels off once we hit DDR3-1333 C8 with a 2% improvement compared to 1066 C7.
MainConcept Reference 1.61
One of our favorite video transcoding utilities is MainConcept Reference. We set our profile to iPOD HQ NTSC and then transcode a 651MB 1080P file to a iPOD friendly 34.7MB file.
Improvements in memory bandwidth resulted in an almost 3% increase in performance when moving from 1066 C7 to 1600 C6.
Sony Vegas Pro 9.0 x64
We transcode a 370MB 1080AVCHD file using the Mainconcept MPEG-2 1920x1080 60i, 25Mbps setting with 6-channel audio.
There is a 2% improvement in moving from DDR3-1066 to DDR3-1866 in this application.
CyberLink PowerDirector v7
We transcode a 651MB 1080P file utilizing the 720x480 MPEG-4 AVCHD 6-channel audio setting while performing a Light Ray effect on the output file.
Except for the 1333 C9/C8 results, performance remains flat from 1066 C7 to 1866 C7 as your choice of memory speed is not going to really affect this particular application.
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sonci - Thursday, June 25, 2009 - link
The title was enough,and yours is too..
goinginstyle - Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - link
I have no idea where you have been hiding Gary but it is great to see you back. I look forward to the AMD article and the individual module tests. If they are half as good as this, I will be one happy person. Any chance or comments on Virtualization benches under WIn7 with XP?duploxxx - Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - link
very nice article with real world applications, now can you pls do the same with amount of dimms used and finally kill this marketing hype?vailr - Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - link
Re:"Current JDEC specifications list 1.50V as the official voltage specification for DDR3 with a move to 1.35V in the near future and eventually to 1.20V."
How does DDR5 (already being used on some video cards) voltages compare with those numbers?
Any predictions on when DDR5 memory modules for main boards might be introduced?
Are lower latency DDR3 modules "in the works"?
Maybe such a thing as:
1333 MHz @4-4-4-12 & 1.20v, for example?
Also: Intel promotes the benefits of using Hafnium when producing their CPU's. Would Hafnium also benefit memory chips?
GourdFreeMan - Thursday, June 25, 2009 - link
The video cards you are thinking of use GDDR, not DDR. You will never find GDDR packaged on DIMMs for motherboard memory slots, but rather only as individual chips for graphics boards and consoles. Though they share some technologies, you would need a different memory controller to make use of it. Typically GDDR5 runs from 1V to 1.4V (the GDDR5 on the stock Radeon HD 4770 runs at 1.263V for example). Hafnium dioxide has already been used by some manufacturers as the dielectric material in DRAM capacitors, and I know NEC, at least, has already used Hafnium in transistor gates for embedded DRAM. As for higher speed and lower latency RAM, that is pretty much always in the works...Zorlac - Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - link
I have thought this all along, but was too lazy to prove it. Thanks Anand!!! :)Any idea when we will start seeing 4GB DIMMs for running 3x4GB kits?
Gary Key - Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - link
We just finished testing a 12GB 1600 C9 kit from Kingston, but the street price is $1400. I also have a 24GB kit from Corsair, but I will not even mention the cost on that one. We should see affordable (compared to buying 6x2GB) 12GB kits later this year in the 1333 C8 variety without ECC. I do have a 12GB ECC Kingston 1066 C8 kit arriving shortly, retail is about $320, to test in some workstation products.DXRick - Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - link
It looks like the sweet spot is 1600 C8 at around $100 for a 6BG kit.vol7ron - Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - link
agreed --- those saying 1333 really are saving the buckI would still like to see SuperPi tests, since they are a mathematical approach to memory performance.
Gary Key - Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - link
Super Pi results will come in Raja's 2000 shootout. However, most of the Super Pi program runs in cache and when it goes outside of it,it only hits a couple of ranks in short bursts (why bandwidth matters) and as a result a proper loading of the entire memory subsystem is not really tested thoroughly. That said, we will have a complete subsection on Super Pi for the overclocking crowd. :)