Online Play

We had some complaints about Rock Band 2's online play, and Guitar Hero World Tour fixes some of those issues, but creates others. Here's the long and short of it.

In GHWT, you can't coop on your career path. Getting help unlocking songs from random strangers is a nice perk in RB2. Part of the problem in RB2, though, is that you either have to start a band and chose what everyone does all the time, or you have to join a band and be at the mercy of someone else's song picks. GHWT fixes that.

When playing with other people, every song a random band member is picked to chose the next song to play. This allows everyone to take turns choosing songs to play and is much better from a "just wanna play with people online" sort of model. And honestly, this is what we really wanted to do most of the time with Rock Band and had a hard time with. Joining other people's bands just lead to doing stupid challenges or other nonsense, and when we had other people join us they just dropped out and made us fail losing fans all over the place. With GHWT, there is no similar penalty for being screwed and left during a game, and if someone doesn't like the song you picked, they have incentive to stick around in that they might get to pick the next one.

With the headset jack built into the controllers, using voice chat over live is much more accessible. But we still didn't hear a lot of people using it. It is a little less necessary with this setup than with Rock Band though.

On the down side, you have to pick your difficulty setting from the settings menu before the song is picked, so if you go with expert you'd better be ready no matter what song your online friend chooses. Also you only have 10 seconds to decide to edit your settings between songs. So don't be slow either.

It is also not possible, when in the process of matchmaking, to decide you want to wait for a full band. The matchmaking process goes on and gives you one of two options: wait for it to finish working its magic or cancel. You might end up with two people, or one ... or maybe even three (though we were never matched up with 3 people). It's certainly less ambiguous as to whether you should wait for more people or not: you get what you get. But it would still be nice if you could set an option somewhere to definitely wait until you could be matched with at least 2 others if you wanted.

It's not a bad set up, the head to head play is better than in Rock Band, and the cooperative online play is fun as well. Both Harmonix and Neversoft have some things to work on for their next installment. Neither RB2 nor GHWT is perfect in the online department, but both have their strengths and weaknesses. Honestly, the best and most consistent way to have fun online is to play with friends you already know and skip the matchmaking. That's a good time on either game.

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  • munim - Friday, October 31, 2008 - link

    You completely forgot to mention TOOL!!!!! I'm practically subsidizing my friend's purchase of this game because of it.
  • Lord 666 - Friday, October 31, 2008 - link

    It would have been amazing if they included Alice in chains, NIN, and maybe even more Doors songs "Start my fire", "the end", "unknown soldier" or run (from waiting for the sun)

    I'm also having the sensitivty issues on the red drum pad. Have to hit insanely hard to trigger it.
  • DerekWilson - Friday, October 31, 2008 - link

    yeah, I love tool as well ... that's one of the major reasons I was excited about GHWT also. That and more dream theater :-)
  • bootay69 - Friday, October 31, 2008 - link

    The article notes that one of the innovations in the GHWT instruments (guitars specifically) is the inclusion of an XBox Live headphone jack for live play. RB 1 and RB 2 instruments all have that - on the guitar it is a small jack on the side of the guitar, near the fat bottom, and on the drums it's basically right in the middle facing the drummer on the edge.

    GH drives me nuts with modified songs (to make them more difficult instead of more real), cartoony 12-year old appealing graphics, and just plain limited innovation. Band Battles, Challenges, etc. just awesome in RB, as is the HUGE volume of DLC. And the drums...oh lordy the drums are SO good now (although I agree there are huge improvements to be had, I can play for hour after hour now, drenched in sweat, loving every minute of it).

    Rawk on!
  • abhatia - Friday, October 31, 2008 - link

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  • ragingforce - Friday, October 31, 2008 - link

    The songs list page is incomplete, posting only a reference to the song list, not the actual song list. Here is Wikipedia's entry:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_songs_in_Guit...">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_songs_in_Guit...
  • DerekWilson - Friday, October 31, 2008 - link

    yeah sorry about that ... i was tired and i must not have saved the page after I pasted the list in there the first time. It's up now.

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