Conclusion

So after lots of testing at various power levels on the Intel Core i9-13900K and the AMD Ryzen 9 7950X processors, we saw some very interesting results. While it's clearly established that both brands' current generation flagships are high-performance desktop goliaths in their own right, the performance of these processors doesn't scale down with power consumption in quite the same way. And that gives us some interesting results to dissect.

For our analysis, we've split our conclusion into two parts with a final summary; this allows us to make it more distinct in terms of benefits (if any), performance, and of course, if it's simply worth reducing the power on either the Core i9-13900K or Ryzen 9 7950X.

Core i9-13900K Power Scaling Summary

Starting with Intel's Core i9-13900K, we did experience some interesting results across the multitude of benchmarks and both games we tested. While the Core i9-13900K and Ryzen 9 7950X trade blows competitively when left at stock settings, Intel's offering didn't seem quite as performance competitive (and thus overall efficiency) at lower power envelopes. 

Despite being the more power-hungry processor overall, albeit, with better heat transfer than AMD's offering as evidenced by CPU core temperatures, the Core i9-13900K didn't scale quite as effectively as we would have expected. Or, at least, it didn't retain its high performance quite as well at lower TDPs when placed opposite AMD's best chip.

Using our CineBench R23 Multi-Thread test results as our baseline for compute performance, we can see how well the Core i9-13900K scales when tasked with rendering. Using the stock settings figure as our baseline at 100% performance, we can see that dropping down to 125 W; we saw performance sit at around 78%. As we dialed down the power to 105 W, which isn't a massive shift in power consumed, we got about 72% of the performance compared to stock.

Going down to the fan-favorite 65 W point, we saw performance levels drop to 56.6% of stock performance. Which, keeping in mind this is just 26% of the rated power consumption (and less still if the yCruncher power numbers fully translate here). So on a normalized basis, the energy efficiency of the i9-13900K has more than doubled (2.2x) when dialing it down to 65 Watts – it gives up a lot of performance, but it saves even more on power consumption. And if we do rope in those yCruncher measured power figures, then we're looking at something closer to 2.62x the power efficiency versus stock, primarily on account of the i9-13900K's incredibly high stock power consumption.

Overall, at the 65 W mark we saw a peak load power of 71.4 W, and a peak core temperature of 39°C. 

In our gaming tests, the Core i9-13900K performed equally well at all of the power settings we tested, which shows that despite curtailing the power limits massively, the performance for gamers is still there; not all games are created equally, and I'm sure there will be games that may see some drops in performance. The only pitfall we saw with the Core i9-13900K in our game testing was some slightly lower 5% lows in frame rate performance, which has the potential to be concerning, but it's going to depend on the game and the minimum framerates desired (e.g. does it drop below the 60fps mark).

Ryzen 9 7950X Power Scaling Summary

Things get very interesting moving onto the AMD Ryzen 9 7950X processor and the Zen 4 core based on TSMC's 5 nm node. At the top end of the power spectrum at stock settings, the Ryzen 9 7950X shows more efficiency in terms of performance per watt than the Core i9-13900K. Still, we observed some fascinating results as we restricted the power to the AM5 socket through AMD's Package Power Tracking (PPT) technology.

The first thing I want to point out is that, going by yCruncher, the Ryzen 9 7950X uses around 34% less power at stock settings than the Core i9-13900K to achieve similar performance levels. So AMD is already starting from a better place in terms of power efficiency.

Looking at our results in CineBench R23 Multi-Threaded, the Ryzen 9 7950X scaled exceptionally well from a PPT of 230 W down to 65 W. The most important results are obtained at 65 W, with CineBench R23 MT showing that the Ryzen 9 7950X kept 81.1% of its performance in that benchmark's rendering workload when compared directly to stock performance, all with a PPT setting just 28% of the stock limit. So to put things on a normalized basis once again, AMD's power efficiency has almost trebled (2.87x), keeping a lot of performance for a sizable drop in power consumption.

The catch here, however, is that the AMD platform as a whole was far more lax in sticking to its programmed PPT values, as evidenced by yCruncher power consumption. Despite setting the 7950X to 65 W, we still measured 90.3 W under that workload. So on the assumption that translates to CineBench, the 7950X's power efficiency gains aren't as impressive; we're looking at 42% of the power consumption for 81.1% of the performance, or a power efficiency of 1.93x over stock.

Looking at the rest of the metrics at 65 W, we saw a peak load power of 90.3 W, and a peak core temperature of 52°C. 

 

Finally, in the case of both processors, performance at 35 W wasn't precisely jaw-dropping, but it has to be noted that there are diminishing returns to any form of efficiency, and 35 W was, perhaps, a stretch too far for this much physical silicon. Despite this, the Ryzen 9 7590X held 49.3% of its performance in CineBench R23 MT, and the Core i9-13900K had just 30.6% of its performance at 35 W.

Reducing The 'TDP': Watts The Point

So when it comes to reducing TDP or restricting power to the CPU, some may ask, what's the point? Well, one example of where aiming for a higher-end processor and simply limiting power to it is in small form factor PCs. Smaller chassis typically have fewer cooling options available, and for the dinky systems, running a CPU at 253 W (13900K) or 230 W (7950X) can cause as many problems as it solves in such a tight space. Add any mid-range or high-level graphics card to the mix, and things will heat up quickly. 

It's worth noting that a typical 240 mm AIO premium CPU cooler, such as Cooler Master's MasterLiquid Pro 240, can accommodate between 210 to 230 W of thermal power generated, so anything smaller that's ample for SFF computing is going to be even less effective in shifting heat from the CPU to the exterior of the chassis. It's even recommended by many that users look for premium cooling, such as a 240 mm or, ideally, a 360 mm AIO CPU cooler when using one of these flagship processors.


Screenshot from Intel's Xtreme Tuning Utility (XTU)

It's not just SFF enthusiasts who can benefit from lowering overall power consumption. Still, those who are conscious of how much energy they are using aren't going to look favorably on 300 W of power being spat out from the CPU on its own, especially if there's no alternative to dropping a small percentile of performance for a fraction of efficiency. Less heat + less power = less problems.

Final Words: Zen 4 is Very Efficient, But Everyone Improves With Lower TDPs

Despite more affordable options capable of delivering solid gaming performance (check out our latest Best CPUs for Gaming guide for more details), in regards to taking x86 computing to new heights, both Intel and AMD can be proud of their achievements. Our testing and our independent reviews of the AMD Ryzen 9 7950X and Intel Core i9-13900K processors are clear that both are the cream of the crop regarding high-performance desktop computing. In fact, at the top end of the spectrum, both processors trade blows in compute elements such as rendering, encoding, simulation, and gaming.

The biggest winner in our testing is AMD with the Ryzen 9 7950X. The biggest takeaway from our analysis is that despite curtailing the max power consumption on the Ryzen 9 7950X by over 50%, plenty of performance remains on the table to be tapped into. Seeing the chip retain 80%+ of its stock performance even when the peak power consumption is just 42% is a very encouraging outcome. This makes SFF computing more appealing, even at the higher end.

Intel's i9-13900K, in comparison, doesn't fare quite as well. Though as it's clear both platforms are running well outside their "sweet spots" on the v/f curve for these flagship SKUs, it still benefits as well: a 65 W setting still gives us around 60% of the performance for 21%(!) the measured peak power consumption. The end result is that the i9-13900K sheds more power consumption on both an absolute and relative basis than AMD's chip, giving up more performance in the process.

Just keep in mind that TDPs (and PPTs) are better thought of as an "aspirational" value than a hard limit. That goes for both stock settings, and when power limiting these chips. In the end, neither platform quite adhered to our desired power limits, with AMD's being the worse of the two. Meaning that outside of stock settings, the 7950X ended up consuming more power at any given limit. But in keeping with our desire to focus on real-world performance here, this still offers a very valid take on what to expect from dialing either processor down to "65" Watts, as I doubt very many tweakers are targeting a specific wattage, versus just dialing down their power limits to save power and boost efficiency.

Ultimately, if you're short of space right now, you can still benefit from lower temperatures and reduced power consumption with either platform. Though when it comes to overall (i.e. best) performance, the edge goes to the Ryzen 9 7950X. With a nearly 2x increase in energy efficiency shifting down to a 65 Watt(ish) PPT setting, it's clear that the chip was pushed well past its sweet spot in order to achieve the best possible absolute performance. All of which means there's a lot of energy efficiency to gain from pulling it back to that spot. No wonder AMD decided now was the time to bring one of its chiplet-based desktop CPUs to the mobile arena with the new Ryzen Mobile 7045 HX-series processors – as audacious as a 16 core CPU is in a laptop, AMD's Zen 4 silicon is up to the task.

Core i9-13900K & Ryzen 9 7950X Scaling Performance: Peak Power/Temps & Gaming
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  • cbutters - Friday, January 6, 2023 - link

    Would be really cool to see this type of content for the GPU side of things... The 4090 seems to be VERY efficient and retains performance even when reducing the power drastically.
  • icoreaudience - Friday, January 6, 2023 - link

    These results should really be reported using an external power meter.
    The reports from internal probes can be incorrect, if not "doctored", and the "command" to enforce a given power limit can be widely interpreted, as evidenced by some of these tests.

    On this last point, AMD is the worst cheater, with > 30% difference between the "claimed" power limit and the reported one. This has worked well for them, since they can score "great" performance results at low TDP ... just by not respecting the TDP.

    This is an important point, because as long as news outlets continue to fall for this false reporting trick, there will be a direct incentive for chip manufacturers to cheat even more. Pretty soon, we'll have meaningless "TDP limit", and countless "tech expert" praising the efficiency of the one that cheats the most.
  • tygrus - Friday, January 6, 2023 - link

    You could spend more time ensuring the power caps can be the same in practice (your caps were in theory but not followed by CPU on average).
    It does show that Intel performance/power curve is flatter & rewards greater power usage. AMD perf/pwr curve is flatter so it doesn't pay to overclock it but does reward underclocking. Just imagine if AMD could keep its low freq efficiency but get Intel scaling on top.
  • Cooe - Friday, January 6, 2023 - link

    TL;DR = AMD's going to absolutely MURDER Intel in laptops this generation. Dragon Range-HX vs Raptor Lake-HX is going to be an absolute freaking bloodbath in AMD's favor...
  • corinthos - Sunday, January 22, 2023 - link

    why are the likes of ASUS dropping AMD and going Intel-only this next gen for their laptop lines then?
  • trenzterra - Friday, January 6, 2023 - link

    Is there a reason why Intel has such low temps compared to AMD at the same power usage? Seems like in a SFF PC or laptop using Intel would mean a cooler chassis despite drawing more power?
  • cyrusfox - Friday, January 6, 2023 - link

    Look at the actual power used, AMD seems to be sipping 30 watts more than advertised, that is likely one reason, the other has to be the IHS with the chiplets, probably not providing good equal contact as well as the IHS being much thicker, See derbauer's video on that from June 2022 "Very thick IHS and less Contact Area - some thoughts on Ryzen 7000"

    Harder to transfer that heat when the IHS is more insulating and slowing the transfer out of the chip into the heatsink. Intel will always win temp to temp comparison unless it is delidded.
  • HideOut - Friday, January 6, 2023 - link

    Or you can buy one of those newly announced non X varients of the AMD chips. Lower costs and lower power out of the box.
  • mirancar - Saturday, January 7, 2023 - link

    gavin, can you please also measure actual power usage from wall socket. from other reviewers there was a big obvious difference between amd’s tdp and intel’s tdp. then you should try to match the tdps to actual power. also would be nice to try and recomend best settings for both processors. i ordered a 13900k and i plan to run it on around 180-200w tdp, where i am hoping for max 75c on full load with a nh-d15
  • Hresna - Tuesday, January 17, 2023 - link

    I measured wall power for my 13900k using a self-reporting corsair PSU and hwinfo logging. My system has high idle power because of some power hungry components but it gives a more detailed view of how the power scaling metrics pan out. My results available here:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/10bna5r...

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