Conclusion & End Remarks

Coming to the end of the review, we’re come to know to interesting devices from LG. The V60 and Velvet are two quite different devices that contrast LG’s seeming transition in device design, and for the most part, I’ve come to a generally positive impression from both phones.

Starting off with the LG V60, the first thing that is striking about the phone is that it’s a very non-contemporary design. Whilst most other manufacturers in 2020 have opted for curved screens and hole-punch front camera phones, LG has instead opted to seemingly remain in the past with a thick-bezeled notch design with a 2018-esque chamfered metal frame. Design is subjective, and practically besides of the ergonomics of a phone of this size, there’s nothing much wrong about keeping things simple like this – I’m pretty sure even a lot of people will enjoy the flat screen.

LG’s choice to go with a lower resolution screen when compared to the V50 is odd if one wouldn’t be familiar with LG past issues with battery life. I think the mobile division’s choice in downgrading the resolution is pretty much an admission that LG’s display division isn’t able to provide them with an efficient 1440p panel. I think this downgrade, as much as it’s painful for display fidelity, is the much better choice for the V60 as it finally solves the battery problem, and combined with the Snapdragon 865 and a 5000mAh makes the V60 amongst the longest lasting devices on the market today.

The lack of a high refresh-rate panel is a pity in 2020 – so that’s one of the compromises one has to make when going with the phone. Another big weakness is colour accuracy, and the V60 here is just horrible, but sadly we’ve come to expect that from LG phones.

Performance of the phone is great thanks to the S865 – it’s on par with other devices and results in a good user experience. I feel like LG’s software here can use a ton more polish in terms of their animations and general snappiness, but it’s not the phone itself which lacks processing power.

On the camera side of things, LG’s daylight pictures are excellent and easily amongst the top performers on the market. I really love what they did with the 64MP main camera sensor and it really is very detail-rich with good processing. The biggest weakness is low-light photography when it gets darker beyond a certain point, and the company’s lack of a proper computational photography night mode means it can’t compete with the rest of the pack when it gets very dark.

The LG Velvet is an interesting phone. First of all, LG’s redesign is a resounding success, and this is by far the sexiest LG phone we’ve come to experience in years. The company has always tried to be different in terms of their designs, but to be honest, there’s only so many ways to design a glass sandwich slab. For me the ergonomics of the phone are infinitely better than the V60 even though both devices share the same screen diagonal.

It’s also a 1080p screen, but here given that it’s a upper-mid-range / premium positioned device, I feel that it’s adequate enough for its class.

The Snapdragon 765 is new for a lot of people, and whilst it’s not my first encounter with the SoC, it’s the first comparison I was able to make against the S865 against a device from the same vendor, meaning the software stack and optimisations are similar. The end-result is probably a bit more disappointing than I had hoped it to be: On the CPU side, the chip generally performs in-between a Snapdragon 845 and a Snapdragon 855. Whilst I would no way say that it’s a bad user experience, there’s a clear difference in performance to the flagship V60.

On the GPU side, I feel like the difference is quite bigger, and here the phone performs in-between a Snapdragon 835 and 845 flagship phones when it comes to the performance, almost 2.5x slower than the Snapdragon 865 powered V60. That’s quite a starker difference, and if you’re a heavy gamer, it might not be the wisest purchase, versus say, just buying an older flagship phone.

Camera wise, the Velvet actually performed very well, and its best characteristics are that the processing is extremely similar to that of the V60, which means it’s quite excellent. Of course, the inferior sensor does mean slightly less details, dynamic range, and low-light photography is still a no-go, but at this price range it’s still reasonable enough.

Availability Is The Handicap

The LG V60’s release price was $899 which actually undercut a lot of other Snapdragon 865 phones in the market at the time, at least Samsung’s devices. The phone’s strengths are its outstanding battery life and a strong daylight camera. Weaknesses are a more lacklustre screen and a worse very low-light camera system. Unique things about the phone are its inclusion of a 3.5mm headphone jack. In general, the competition at this price would the OnePlus 8 Pro, which admittedly just offers a much better overall package, only sacrificing some battery life and the 3.5mm jack. I feel like LG would need a $100 price cut to make the V60 a more rationalised purchase.

 

The LG Velvet comes in at 599€. Whilst the phone its generally good for its price-point, the biggest issue I have with these premium devices is that 90% of the time you’re just better off buying last year’s flagship phones. A Galaxy S10 right now undercuts the Velvet at 555€ whilst being a much better phone with a better display, more performance, and overall better camera system. The only thing where the Velvet really is able to claim victory over last year’s devices is its 5G connectivity which future-proofs the phone significantly. In that sense, I also feel that the device is slightly overpriced as-is, and a 100€ reduction would alleviate any hesitations for its purchase. OnePlus’s upcoming Nord device seemingly will have very similar specifications to the Velvet while we’re expecting it to come at a lower price as well.

 

LG’s biggest issues today however isn’t merely pricing, but also availability. The V60 was never released in Europe and in the US it’s most commonly available only from select carriers. My review unit is actually T-Mobile branded phone and it comes with the usual bloatware associated with that.

The Velvet just outright isn’t available in the US, so you’ll have no luck in getting a device there. The phone was recently released in Europe with wider availability, as you can for example just buy a unit off LG directly from Amazon for example.

Overall, both phones aren’t the most competitive phones, but they’re still LG’s best phones they have made to date, and are both definitive improvements of the company’s past attempts. Let’s hope the Velvet’s fresh redesign can also be applied to other future LG devices.

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  • Pelonquin - Wednesday, July 15, 2020 - link

    I went from a V30+ to a OnePlus 8. After getting the OnePlus replaced 3 times within 3 weeks i told them i wanted out and got the V60. I got two of them with dual screens for about the same monthly as what the 1+ would have been. I hated the thin candybar shape of the 1+ along with all the troubles that i had with it. I got tired of wasting screen protectors on the 1+.
  • s.yu - Wednesday, July 15, 2020 - link

    Interesting but...you completely skipped LG's unique audio and video features, which the Oneplus obviously lacks.
    Looking forward to an Xperia 1II review :)
  • BenSkywalker - Wednesday, July 15, 2020 - link

    Nothing about the quad DAC?

    There are those of us who only buy LG phones because of that feature. It can drive high impedance cans, it is an entirely different tier than a regular 3.5mm jack.

    Is high quality audio going to be like wide color gamut? Ignore it entirely unless Apple tells you it is important?
  • Quantumz0d - Thursday, July 16, 2020 - link

    Look at G7 review and how the author disregarded the DAC, same for G8, in the comments for both, I made significant posts about the lack of the data. I think that's why here we do not see the ESS DAC or any of the LG's world's top smartphone in the Audio aspect doesn't even get a fucking spec list out.

    A shame on journalism. When we see Apple's deep SoC SPEC measuring contest where in real life it translates to nothing but dust.
  • Quantumz0d - Thursday, July 16, 2020 - link

    Although I applaud the author for making such a strong point on the 3.5mm jack it's really rare to see, AT is one of those places where there's integrity. SD card slot should also make it to that level of appreciation, sadly with Google fucking up storage I highly doubt we will see that PCIe class SD cards anytime soon when the OEMs are pushing for cloud bs.
  • nicolaim - Wednesday, July 15, 2020 - link

    Typo: one place says Adreno 640, another 650.
  • Dave_S - Thursday, July 16, 2020 - link

    The V60 would be a great device to own. If LG would let us buy it!
    Their marketing and distribution SUCK! Only available in very few countries.
    Not good enough LG. Lift your game or lose market share big time.
  • RaduR - Thursday, July 16, 2020 - link

    I loved LG G3. It was a true flagship at its time . Qi, huge screen , huge resolution. It was a true flagship killer.

    Even the following phones with accessories were standing out of the crowd. It was G5 I believe.

    But what on earth are they thinking now. Who in his right mind would buy these pieces of crap while Xiaomi Mi10 is half the price and better in any aspect. Also Samsung from last year is a better choice.

    They should stop fighting against Samsung since they are not there anymore. They first should undercut Chinese products and only after that chase Samsung .

    Look what One Plus and Xiaomi did. In a few yeats they are top brands but they did not fight Samsung in the first place.

    LG , wake up !
  • TheinsanegamerN - Thursday, July 16, 2020 - link

    Well, the Xiaomi and other Chinese brands are not really an option in the US unles you like playing russian roulette on network support, especially with VoLTE becoming mandatort in the next year or 2.
  • eek2121 - Thursday, July 16, 2020 - link

    I had the V30 and it was solid.

    I am not singing praises for LG here, because they lock their boot loader tighter than....yeah we will leave it there, but let’s just say that the majority of the problems with boot-looping and other oddities can almost always be traced back to Qualcomm.

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