We still haven’t had any official announcements from Samsung regarding the Note20 series as of yet, expecting the company to only reveal the new phone series sometime in early to mid-August if past release dates are any indications. Yet in a surprise blunder, the company has managed to publicly upload two product images of the upcoming Note20+ or Ultra (naming uncertain) on one of its Ukrainian pages.

Whilst we usually don’t report on leaks or unofficial speculations as part of our editorial standards – a first party blunder like this is very much an exception to the rule.

The leak showcases the seemingly bigger sibling of the Note20 series as it features the full camera housing and seemingly same modules as the Galaxy S20 Ultra. There’s been a design aesthetic change as the cameras are now accentuated by a ring element around the lenses, making the modules appear more consistent with each other, even though there’s still clearly different sized lenses along with the rectangular periscope zoom module. The images showcase actual depth on the part of the ring elements, so they may extend in three dimensions.

The new gold/bronze colour also marks a return for Samsung for such a more metallic option.

We expect the Note20 series to be a minor hardware upgrade over the S20 devices, with the most defining characteristic naturally being the phone’s integrated S-Pen stylus.

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Source: Samsung Ukraine (Removed by now)

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  • flyingpants265 - Friday, July 3, 2020 - link

    All batteries are replaceable, just need to open the phone. It's tricky but it's not really that bad.

    Same with glass backs. Not a dealbreaker at all.

    Headphone jack is a complete dealbreaker, because I have 3 pairs of headphones that I use regularly... I'm not going to switch to wireless because it's inferior quality and lower battery life. I don't want to have to charge my goddamn headphones...
  • s.yu - Friday, July 3, 2020 - link

    The simplest way I could think of to solve this is to get one of those T-shaped C to C and 3.5mm adapters and mill a frame out of aluminum to incorporate that adapter.
    This is the simplest way. And you still lose most fast charging(the adapter may pass QC2.0 I don' remember)
  • flyingpants265 - Friday, July 3, 2020 - link

    Yeah, another way would be to make sure all your charging cables & headphones all have pass-thru capability, so the usb-c is always there like a sort of daisy chain. That's far simpler than milling a new frame IMHO but may cost a bunch in special cables.

    Or... just have two ports. I don't really care what they are anymore. Use two headphone jacks, for all I care. I just want to be able to use them at the same time.
  • s.yu - Saturday, July 4, 2020 - link

    That would be horrible. Cable matters and I can't imagine the interference charging through the same cable you're listening to in analog would create.
  • c4v3man - Tuesday, July 7, 2020 - link

    Most USB-C to headphone adapters are basically an external DAC... so if designed properly, there's no interference between the charging current and the analog output from the DAC circuit located elsewhere in the adapter.

    I'm not saying it's perfect, but USB-C audio has the potential to be better than a 3.5mm jack given that better DAC's can be used, designed around the impedance of the particular headphones you're using, etc.

    That being said, having phones come with dual USB-C ports would help with the charging+wired audio aspect, as well as add additional durability to devices by allowing failover to a different functional port if one stops working. But devices need to be fragile to encourage more device sales, so that's not happening...
  • s.yu - Wednesday, July 8, 2020 - link

    Theoretically yes, but the reality IMO is all the manufacturers who do C port earphones will skimp on the circuitry to cut costs, also that's one more thing that could break in a cable that could already break, only thankfully easy to repair by cutting it a little shorter and rewiring the 3.5mm plug. Granted, the likelihood of a properly made cable breaking is far less than losing one side of any pair of TWS.
    And he actually said daisychaining, "all your charging cables & headphones all have pass-thru capability", so either the driving circuitry is integrated in the earphones(history suggests designs like that would also be skimped) or there would be high likelihood of interference running a high current and analog signal side by side, not to mention a cable meant to be used like that probably doesn't use very good copper/silver in the first place.
  • Quantumz0d - Friday, July 3, 2020 - link

    Another disposable gadget. No user replaceable battery, worst software because of Google copying iOS filesystem and destroyed it - Scoped Storage from Android 11. No headphone jack, uber expensive price at over $1K, for what should I buy this garbage ?

    I have an LG phone it has root with bootloader unlock, MicroSD, no bullshit notch or hole, has a high end industry top DAC chipset from ESS and runs like how it ran out of the box and runs all software this phone runs and even more because of root. This POS cannot do half of the things it can, that Stylus is for niche use cases, Camera is blown out of proportion for the Smartphones. Oh LG's Manual Video / Photo modes are much powerful than this, as they also have a HiFi Audio recording option with sound filters as well. Sony Xperia I Mark 2 is also a great phone over this garbage for sure, their Pro Video modes are superb, the phone also had a 3.5mm jack, no bullshit hole or notch. SD slot exists but sadly it's insanely expensive as well with same non user replaceable battery.
  • s.yu - Friday, July 3, 2020 - link

    Yeah, the thing with the Sony is AFAIK it doesn't drop 20% in street price in 2-3 months. If this comes out in August by October they should be the same price, a month later this would be cheaper lol.
  • s.yu - Wednesday, July 8, 2020 - link

    Turns out I may be wrong, there's a rumored 20-30% price bump of the GN20 series! Again higher price for less features, I don't know if they've mistaken themselves for Leica or something?
  • liquid_c - Saturday, July 4, 2020 - link

    As many have stated, in the comments section, the lack of a 3,5mm jack is a huge turn-off. I would be OK with the lack of it if there were any decent to good type-c headphones out there. This is one of the main reasons i’m sticking with iPhones - i don’t want to abandon the iSine20 with lightning cipher cable. If only they had something similar in the Android world.

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