PPA Projections - Significant, If Delivered

Moving on, the A-Series improvements don’t mean much if we can’t put them into context in the competitive landscape.

As mentioned in the introduction, Imagination seem aware of the current PPA deficit that GPU vendor IP offers versus custom designs by more vertically integrated SoC vendors.

Starting off with a comparison between current generation Qualcomm GPU against an Arm GPU. Imagination didn’t specifically mention which designs we’re talking about here, but we do clearly see from the die shots that the SoCs being compared are the Snapdragon 855 and the Exynos 9820.

Here Imagination describes that for a similar performance level, Arm’s Mali GPUs are using ~184% the silicon area compared to Qualcomm’s Adreno implementation.

I do have some doubts about the validity of the comparison being made here, as these SoCs were not made on the same process node – Qualcomm's design is built on TSMC's denser 7nm process, while Samsung's Exynos uses their larger 8nm process. With that in mind, we take the metrics presented with a huge grain of salt as Imagination does say the figures are based on analysis of multiple Arm IP implementations rather than a single data-point.

Projecting the A-Series against a current Mali-G76 implementation, targeting a performance level equivalent to current generation flagship implementations (~100fps in Manhattan 3.0), an A-Series GPU would achieve a significantly smaller GPU implementation requiring much less die area. The comparison implementation here would be an AXT-16-512 implementation running at slightly lower than nominal clock and voltage (in order to match the performance).

If a customer were to choose to use more die area to go wider and slower in clock (more efficient), while still maintaining an estimated area that would be smaller than a Mali GPU, it would roughly achieve a 75% performance advantage. The comparison here would be an AXT-32-1024 running quite far below nominal, giving it a large power efficiency advantage.

Of course, Imagination’s comparison here were made against the current generation Qualcomm and Arm GPUs, which aren't what it'll actually be competing against. Instead, by the time A-series SoCs ship, it will be competing against the next-generation Adreno as well as Mali-G77. We know Arm’s promised goals for the G77 and the improvements in performance per mm² and performance perf/W is around 1.2-1.4x, which we could generalize to 1.3x. Samsung’s upcoming Exynos 990 only promises a 20% performance increase, which is slightly below this projection. On the Qualcomm side and the upcoming Adreno generation, we’ll have to wait a few more days to be able to talk about details, but generally we expect improvements in the same ballpark.

Fortunately for Imagination, the projected PPA figures and advantages for the A-Series are high enough that they would still be notably ahead of both Qualcomm and Arm’s upcoming next generation GPUs, keeping a comfortable lead in either GPU area, or performance, depending on the configuration.

So far everything looks quite splendid – what remains to be seen if Imagination and their licensees are able to deliver on the projected figures.

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  • Korguz - Tuesday, December 3, 2019 - link

    and your not ?? come one melgross.. some of your posts... have pro intel all over them...
  • Korguz - Tuesday, December 3, 2019 - link

    case on point : https://www.anandtech.com/show/15162/dell-intel-cp...
  • s.yu - Tuesday, December 3, 2019 - link

    Ok? Like how HiSilicon siphoned from Cambricon?
  • levizx - Tuesday, December 3, 2019 - link

    How? It's a completely different architecture.
  • vladx - Wednesday, December 4, 2019 - link

    Don't mind s.yu, he's the biggest Chinese hater on AnandTech. You would save yourself time and energy just ignoring his rambling.
  • s.yu - Wednesday, December 4, 2019 - link

    Yeah...I vaguely remember you vlad, you were singing praises for the Soviet Union and claiming that China is the best everywhere and that its government takes care of every aspect of your life from housing to employment.
    "Chinese hater"
    Yeah...common attempts of brainwashed drones to discredit me.
    FYI I am anti-Huawei+anti-Emperor Xi>anti-Party!=anti-China
    There's a big distinction there, unless you're so ignorant you could oversimplify that as equal.
  • vladx - Wednesday, December 4, 2019 - link

    Your attempts to "poison the well" are just pathetic, s.yu.
  • s.yu - Wednesday, December 4, 2019 - link

    I only see you poisoning the well with fiction. I quote multiple sources and why two other trolls scurried off after astroturfing for Huawei again.
    https://www.anandtech.com/show/15099/the-huawei-ma...
    If you're so righteous man up and face me, lace your arguments with insults I don't care but if all you have is nothing but empty insults then that only speaks to your status as a blind drone.
  • s.yu - Wednesday, December 4, 2019 - link

    From when is it completely different, where is it different? A source would be appreciated. Now it might be different, but they're strangely forthcoming regarding the current architecture compared to past NPUs, there's not many points of reference, and Huawei doesn't deserve benefit of the doubt.
  • levizx - Tuesday, December 3, 2019 - link

    Also Cambricon is backed by Chinese Academy of Sciences - a government agency. You think they don't have any teeth to bare if Huawei stole from them?

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