Camera - Low Light Evaluation

We’ve had the Reno 10x in camera comparisons in previous articles, but as mentioned in the introduction of the device, Oppo was able to update its software over the last few months. The one area where there has been significant advancements in is in terms of low-light photograph and an apparent new night mode.

Previously, the original Night mode on the Reno was a dedicated mode one had to select to use. In newer firmware updates, the Reno now will automatically select a new kind of night mode in lower light conditions, and this is characterised by the camera app doing three quick shutter animations and sounds. We’ll see how this has changed, and how the new mode compares against the competition.

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[ Reno 10x ]
[ S10+ (E) ] - [ S10+ (S) ]
[ Xperia 1 ] - [ P30 Pro ] - [ Mi9
[ G8 ] - [ BlackShark 2 ] - [ RedMagic 3 ] - [ Pixel 3 ]

At first glance, the one thing that pops out in this shot is that it feels relatively flat. Indeed looking at the histogram of the image, it looks like the phone 20-30% of the highlights even though there’s a bright spotlights in the scene.

However looking closer at the rest of the shot, we’re seeing some actual impressive levels of detail retention that in fact rivals the best we’ve seen from Google, Huawei and Samsung.

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[ Reno 10x ]
[ S10+ (E) ] - [ S10+ (S) ]
[ Xperia 1 ] - [ P30 Pro ] - [ Mi9 ]
[ G8 ] - [ BlackShark 2 ] - [ RedMagic 3 ] - [ Pixel 3 ]

In the next shot the Reno’s new night mode is again extremely competitive. The one issue in this shot is that the phone is getting the colour temperature quite wrong, not properly capturing the orange light of the sodium street lamps. There are different levels of pure detail and noise reduction between all the different phones with night mode here, but the Oppo does belong amongst the group of phones that now produce quite detailed night shots.

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[ Reno 10x ] [ S10+ (E) ] - [ S10+ (S) ]
[ Xperia 1 ] - [ P30 Pro ] - [ Mi9
[ G8 ] - [ BlackShark 2 ] - [ RedMagic 3 ] - [ Pixel 3 ]

In the next shot again, I think that algorithmically in terms of producing a brighter image out of several low-light results, the new Oppo firmware is extremely competitive. There’s still issue such as again the colour balance being off here.

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[ Reno 10x ]
[ S10+ (E) ] - [ S10+ (S) ]
[ Xperia 1 ] - [ P30 Pro ] - [ Mi9
[ G8 ] - [ BlackShark 2 ] - [ RedMagic 3 ] - [ Pixel 3 ]

The next shot is something we’ve tested in the past with the Reno 10x, however at the time the phone couldn’t capture very much of this scene. Today, at least when looking at the thumbnail, the Reno is able to capture significant amount of light rivalling other phones. When looking into closer detail however we see the result is extremely noisy. Investigating the EXIF shows that the shot seemingly was done at ISO1408, which I didn’t even know was possible out of the IMX586.

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[ Reno 10x ] [ S10+ (E) ] - [ S10+ (S) ]
[ Xperia 1 ] - [ P30 Pro ] - [ Mi9 ]
[ G8 ] - [ BlackShark 2 ] - [ RedMagic 3 ] - [ Pixel 3 ]

Finally, going even lower light and indoors, the phone abandons any attempt to get a good capture. It seems it’s at this point where the sensor’s physical capabilities have reached an end and the software doesn’t know how to improve things anymore.

Low-light Conclusion

The one thing we came to a conclusion to today is the fact that Oppo has now itself onto the list of vendors who have proper computational photography night modes. Oppo’s implementation seems to be able to retain a lot of detail of the natural scene, in this regard competing against what we’ve seen from Google, Huawei and Samsung. It’s still lacking in terms of colour balance, and in certain conditions it does fall behind. These latter scenarios is I think just a limitation of the IMX586 – although again Huawei/Honor has also shows that’s possible to get more out of the sensor.

Overall, the Reno 10x does adequately in low-light, which is something great to see as it means that future devices from the vendor will only continue to iterate and improve upon the current results.

Camera - Daylight Evaluation Conclusion & End Remarks
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  • dullard - Wednesday, September 18, 2019 - link

    I don't think I've ever thought about or ever noticed phone weights. Size and bulk? Yes. Weight? Never.
  • MarcusMo - Wednesday, September 18, 2019 - link

    It’s one of these things that you don’t notice until you pick up a phone that passes the point of being too heavy.
    I agree with the op, I hate the feeling of having a brick in my jacket pocket.
  • wr3zzz - Wednesday, September 18, 2019 - link

    That's a good point. If I still had to wear a suit everyday then the weight would be problematic.

    For those that don't have to wear suits, I actually like the slightly heavier phones, though anything more than 200g is still too much even for jean pockets.
  • Calista - Wednesday, September 18, 2019 - link

    Fuly agree, I find my Note 8 at 195 gram too heavy. I never felt the same in regard to my S7 Edge at 157 gram. And I find the Nokia 3310 at 85 gram a bit too flimsy instead. Depending on the individual of course, but to me a weight of 120-140 seem perfect. The S4 for example is 130 gram. Not feeling flimsy, still very thin and light.
  • eek2121 - Wednesday, September 18, 2019 - link

    The entire design trend of phones needs a rethink. At least one major OEM should put things in reverse and do things like a *plastic* or *metal* back, bezels on the top and bottom (with stereo speakers for the occasional time when you have to use your phones sound), and a SLIGHTLY smaller screen. As far as a headphone jack, I'd rather just see a dongle in the box TBH. The whole headphone jack thing is overblown. Pumping audio through the USB-Type C port means you get a clean digital signal, making it possible to do things like optical out, etc. Combine that with a built in amp on the phone (along with the 'quad DAC' that some LG phones have) and you get a nice clean signal that can either be converted to a headphone jack or hooked up to a soundbar or surround sound system.

    I'd also like to see micro SD cards return and have a storage manager built into the system that combines internal and external storage. Encrypt it if you want, but as quickly as prices have fallen (I just bought 4 128 GB microSD cards for $15...and they are REAL. Ran a tester on them.), External storage will be the way to go when you run out of space. I'd also like to see an AOSP style release without vendor junkware.

    The problem is I wouldn't pay a premium for those features. Such a phone would be worth about $499 if it had 4 GB of RAM and a Snapdragon 855 combined with a 2560x1440 AMOLED screen.
  • Tams80 - Wednesday, September 18, 2019 - link

    I agree with a lot of that, but definitely not the headphone jack port. It should stay, as as a connector it is more durable when in use because it can rotate. We're finding out that many USB C ports are not that much better than microUSB ports in terms of durability.
    Besides, all headphones end up analogue.

    It's not like the USB C port would suddenly lose audio transmission capability.
  • danielfranklin - Wednesday, September 18, 2019 - link

    " I want all my groceries on one bag, but i dont want that bag to be heavy! "
  • Tams80 - Wednesday, September 18, 2019 - link

    They could easily dispense of some weight by using plastic.
  • drexnx - Wednesday, September 18, 2019 - link

    all that heftiness and chunk and they still couldn't find room for a 3.5mm jack?
  • ToTTenTranz - Wednesday, September 18, 2019 - link

    "Low-light Conclusion - Terrible

    (...)

    Overall, the Reno 10x does adequately in low-light, which is something great to see as it means that future devices from the vendor will only continue to iterate and improve upon the current results."

    So.. um.. which is it?

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