Big credit to Patrick Kennedy from ServeTheHome for spotting this gem on the show floor, but it looks like if you want a Chinese branded EPYC CPU with some minor changes, it’s coming. Back in 2016, AMD and Hianjin Jaiguang Advanced Technology Investment Co. (THATIC) formed a joint venture (JV) to develop custom Zen-based processors just for the Chinese market. Within the JV, AMD would provide its Zen microarchitecture, whereas the rest of the SoC would be designed by the JV. AMD owns 49% of the company, while THATIC owns 51%. The first product out of that partnership is the Hugon Dhyana family of processors, and the first retailer with systems is Sugon.


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There are lots of questions surrounding exactly what these CPUs are. A Weibo user from China has published a screenshot allegedly taken on one of Hugon Dhyana-based machines which reveals that the eight-core Dhyana 3185 features 768 KB L1 cache, 4 MB L2 cache, and 16 MB L3 cache, the same configuration as AMD’s low-end eight-core EPYC processors. They look like EPYC processors, but with different cryptography engines inside the chip. Differences beyond that are unknown, but it still uses the same packaging and the same socket as EPYC. Now with a visual image, we can tell another key significant difference – while the carrier for Threadripper is orange, and for EPYC is blue, with Hygon CPUs it is red. This is very important.

Other details about the CPU were not present – we found the CPU in a system being developed by one of the JV OEM partners. We’re working with that partner to hopefully get a system in for testing.

Interestingly enough, we got the bottom right of the CPU translated. A literal translation is 

'Using Cores to Calculate The Future'

However, the second character used in the slogan is a homonym, which could be translated as:

'Using Passion to Calculate The Future'

For a Chinese CPU, the synergestic phrasing is very poetic.

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  • Lord of the Bored - Friday, May 31, 2019 - link

    I laughed at that too. Reply
  • ajc9988 - Friday, May 31, 2019 - link

    According to the licensing agreement, IIRC, the Chinese version of the licensed IP cannot be sold outside of China. The color coding can help with someone trying to pull a fast one. Reply
  • intr0 - Monday, June 03, 2019 - link

    Dudes in Times Square already have these set out on tables for half what they cost in China. Reply
  • Reflex - Thursday, May 30, 2019 - link

    Who is fabbing these? TSMC? Reply
  • Phynaz - Thursday, May 30, 2019 - link

    Another reason to NOT support AMD

    They sell technology to enemies of the United States.
    Reply
  • Azurael - Thursday, May 30, 2019 - link

    I think the fact that the US government can use its hegemony to screw over companies it doesn't like or sees as international rivals to its own 'prestigious' brands (as we've seen with how they've treated Huawei via Google et al) is a very good reason to try to find substitutes for as much US-developed/supplied technology where possible, not just Google and AMD :-) Reply
  • Tams80 - Friday, May 31, 2019 - link

    Huawei have been needing a good screwing over for their overly dirty tactics (the whole business is dirty to some degree, but Huawei have taken it to a new level), so they thoroughly deserve what is happening to them now. Reply
  • Azurael - Monday, June 03, 2019 - link

    Well, feel free to enlighten me as to what exactly Huawei has been doing, since I'm not inclined to trust an ambiguous claim from a Five Eyes intelligence agency as an authoritative information source. How are those Cisco routers with the NSA backdoors doing? Reply
  • npz - Thursday, May 30, 2019 - link

    Are you going to boycott ARM and all its partners too? They do exactly the same and license the chip architecture and sell chips to Chinese companies as well. Reply
  • sonny73n - Thursday, May 30, 2019 - link

    To the Americans, everyone is enemy including their own. East vs West, North vs South. Not even animals live with so much hatred.
    AMD CEO is Lisa Su, not Lisa Smith. Many Chinese scientists have contributed to the US. Maybe the Chinese sell AMD the Zen architecture, not the other way around.
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