Early this morning Korea time, Samsung LSI announced their newest generation flagship SoC, the Exynos 9820.

The Exynos 9820 succeeds this year’s Exynos 9810, which we’ve covered extensively both in our review of the Galaxy S9, as well investigated in separate pieces, ending with an official microarchitectural disclosure of the M3 core at HotChip 2018.

The Exynos 9810 was not a very successful chip, as the M3 microarchitecture as well as the implementation had some severe flaws, with actual devices based on the chip largely lagging behind their Snapdragon counter-parts, having to sacrifice a lot of performance in order to keep up with battery efficiency, and even then, failing to do so most of the time.

The Exynos 9820 looks to rectify this situation with a new design and new CPU configuration, but let’s go over the specifications first:

Samsung Exynos SoCs Specifications
SoC Exynos 9820 Exynos 9810
CPU 2x M4? @ ? GHz
It does have L2

2x Cortex A75 @ ? GHz
Probably L2

4x Cortex A55 @ ? GHz
Let's hope it has L2

Shared complex L3 @ =>4MB
4x M3 @ 1c2.7 / 2c2.3 / 4c1.8 GHz
4x 512KB L2
4096KB L3

4x Cortex A55 @ 1.8 GHz
no L2
512KB L3
GPU Mali G76MP12 Mali G72MP18
4x 16-bit CH
LPDDR4x @ ?MHz
4x 16-bit CH
LPDDR4x @ 1794MHz
Media 8K30 & 4K150 encode & decode
H.265/HEVC, H.264, VP9
10bit 4K120 encode & decode
H.265/HEVC, H.264, VP9
Modem Shannon Integrated LTE
(Category 20/13)

DL = 2000 Mbps
8x20MHz CA, 256-QAM

UL = 316 Mbps
3x20MHz CA, 256-QAM
Shannon Integrated LTE
(Category 18/13)

DL = 1200 Mbps
6x20MHz CA, 256-QAM

UL = 200 Mbps
2x20MHz CA, 256-QAM
ISP Rear: 22MP
Front: 22MP
Dual: 16MP+16MP
Rear: 24MP
Front: 24MP
Dual: 16MP+16MP
8nm LPP
10nm LPP

The new 9820 now fundamentally changes the CPU configuration from a 4+4 setup, to a 2+2+4 setup, where we now have two fourth generation Samsung CPUs as the top performing units, two Cortex A75 CPUs as the mid-tier performance cores, and four Cortex A55 CPUs for maximum power efficiency.

First of all, the new CPU configuration is rectifying one of the issues of the Exynos 9810: Here, the A55 cores were on a separate cluster block on the SoC, and thus cache coherency to the performance cores had to go through the SCI/interconnect, which undoubtedly impacted efficiency. On the Exynos 9820, all CPUs, including the Cortex CPUs, are now integrated within the same cluster and the new L3 is a cache hierarchy to all CPUs, undoubtedly not only improving power efficiency, but also performance of the smaller cores now.

The new L3 cluster is very much similar to Arm’s DynamIQ DSU, however it’s of Samsung’s own design as Arm doesn’t allow third-party cores to plug into the DSU.

The choice of a Cortex A75 as a mid-tier CPU group is evident: Having four big cores such as the M3 or evidently the M4 is very much a waste of die space because in a mobile power envelope, the four cores will never be able to operate at their maximum frequency / performance. So instead of using the same big microarchitecture at a lower clocked configuration, it makes sense to just use a smaller CPU and regain some of the die space. What this also allows Samsung to do is to further optimise the big custom cores for peak frequencies and performance as they no longer have to value the lower-end of the power curve as much, something which is now covered by the A75’s.

In terms of the new fourth generation custom CPU, the M4 (If they’ll end up naming it like that) is advertised to have “enhanced memory access capability”. As we’ve covered the microarchitectural disclosure of the M3, Samsung did admit the cache hierarchy was one of the last pieces that was designed for the IP, and it seemed evident that there were some compromises made. The memory hierarchy and the memory subsystem of the M3 did seem the Achilles heel of the microarchitecture, as it seems to prevent the core reaching higher performance levels that you’d normally expect from such a wide core.

The new M4, as per the marketing materials, now promises a 20% boost in performance, or a 40% increase in power efficiency when compared to the Exynos 9810. I’m still working on the review of the Mate 20’s and the new Cortex-A76 sporting Kirin 980, which should be published soon enough, but these improvement claims from Samsung do not seem sufficient to be able to remain competitive and catch up to the Cortex A76. Here Samsung would need to both showcase a 20% improvement in performance, while at the same time improving power efficiency by 50% in order to catch up with the Kirin 980. Unfortunately the gap currently seems far too big for the 9820 to be able to overcome, unless of course it beats the advertised marketing figures.

One thing that S.LSI didn’t announce today was any kind of frequencies. For the Exynos 9810 they had chosen to advertise some unrealistically high clocks of “up to 2.9GHz”, however these weren’t achievable without some absurd power figures. Along with the IPC upgrades of the new core, I’m expecting the M4 to remain in the 2.5-2.7GHz range, with Samsung hopefully abstaining from going too high in the far end of the voltage curve. The Cortex A75’s should hopefully be in the lower 2GHz range in order to also take advantage of the better efficiency points.

A bigger GPU configuration - Arm's Mali G76MP12

On the GPU side of things, the Exynos 9820 now offers Arm’s new Mali G76 in an MP12 configuration. This represents a 33% increase in the execution engines over the G72MP18 of last generation, and Samsung materials advertise a 40% increase in performance at the same power, or a 35% increase in efficiency at the same performance. On the Kirin 980 the new G76 made some very large improvements, however it just missed the mark in terms of my projections. However S.LSI was always able to achieve much better results than HiSilicon, so the new G76 in the 9820 might very well end up being respectable, even though again I’m not expecting it to match up again Apple’s best and Qualcomm’s next generation.

A new dedicated NPU, alongside connectivity and media improvements

The new 9820 also features a new first for S.LSI: The new chip now for the first time features an NPU (Neural Processing Unit). Details of the new IP are severely lacking, and all we know about it is that Samsung promises it being used for enhancing photo captures or use-cases such as AR, and it to be "7x faster" than the Exynos 9810 in its tasks.

In terms of media capabilities, the new SoC’s encoder IP now promises 8K30 capability. Now I’m not really expecting new devices to be able to be able to capture in this mode as it’ll also require camera sensor support – but having a robust media encoder like this can also point out to improved recording power efficiency.

The new modem now features LTE connectivity up to Category 20 in download and upload, achieving up to 2Gbps at 8CA in downstream and 316Mbps at 3CA in upstream.

One thing that Samsung didn’t highlight in its announcement but is listed in the specifications, is the fact that the SoC now support UFS 3.0 storage. The new standard will be able to double up on the transfer speeds compared to UFS 2.1, achieving a theoretical max of 2.9GB/s.

8nm LPP Manufacturing node

Lastly, but not least, the new Exynos 9820 is manufactured on an 8nm LPP process node from Samsung. 8LPP is an evolution of 10LPP and promises improved power consumption by up to 10%. Here the advertised improvements are relatively meagre, and some people will be questioning if this will be enough to compete with TSMC 7nm node in the current Kirin 980 as well as the upcoming Snapdragon. While it does look like Samsung will have a density disadvantage, I’m not expecting the performance and power disadvantage to all that dramatic. Still, the Exynos 9820 will have a tough time this year, both on the microarchitectural and process node side.

Overall – the new Exynos 9820 should bring much needed improvements compared to its predecessor, however the competition this year will be extremely tough. Here I do hope Samsung makes the best of the silicon and is able to also have a good software stack, as the new tri-group CPU configuration will need a good scheduler. The new Exynos 9820 is planned to go into mass production by the end of the year, and we’ll evidently see it next spring in the new Galaxy S10.

Related Reading

Source: Samsung

Comments Locked


View All Comments

  • levizx - Wednesday, November 14, 2018 - link

    Wow, just wow. The first thing you should know is, single threaded benchmarks are never throttled, unless it's running for 5+ minutes. Certainly never ever seen a non-endurance benchmark where the CPU is throttle to 50% peak performance.
  • darkich - Wednesday, November 14, 2018 - link

    I'm confused.. my point was kinda exactly that..exynos beats kirin in geekbench single, and comes roughly at par in multi core, but why not in other benchmarks?
    Because it's not allowed to run at full power(!?)
    With the new setup, I don't see why they wouldn't be better across the board.
  • Wilco1 - Wednesday, November 14, 2018 - link

    They are close: https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/compare/10394...
    Exynos-M3 is better at throughput benchmarks, especially FP, and its lower memory latency must help there too. On the other hand Cortex-A76 wins all branchy benchmarks by a good margin (eg. LZMA, LLVM, Dijkstra), and that is likely why it does well on SPECINT.
  • Dmcq - Wednesday, November 14, 2018 - link

    "Arm doesn’t allow third-party cores to plug into the DSU." Why on earth not?
  • levizx - Wednesday, November 14, 2018 - link

  • Teckk - Wednesday, November 14, 2018 - link

    This will go against the next Snapdragon flagship? Also, how does 8 LPP compare to Intel 14nm?
  • saratoga4 - Wednesday, November 14, 2018 - link

    Isn't 8LPP Samsung's version of TSMCs (nonEUV) 7nm node? Surprised they don't see more improvements.
  • s.yu - Wednesday, November 14, 2018 - link

    No, it's seen as a stopgap because their 7nm didn't make it in time, it's actually pretty close to their 10nm.
  • eastcoast_pete - Wednesday, November 14, 2018 - link

    @Andrei: Thanks! I look forward to the Mate 20/Kirin 980 review with the performance and performance/Wh numbers you mentioned.
    Question: Any word from Samsung if they can run the big ("M4") and the not-as-big (A75) cores simultaneously (heterogeneous multicore, would be quite a feat in itself), or will it run each group of cores exclusively of each other?
    Lastly, if the "M4" is indeed inferior to the A76 in performance and perf/Wh, did Samsung commit the sin of throwing good money after bad? In other words, is their license to customize ARM cores plus development costs for their custom CPU core really that much cheaper than an outright license to just plain use A76 cores? They obviously are using ARM stock designs for the A55, A75, and the Mali cores, so the not-invented-here syndrome cannot be the whole answer.

    Unrelated to this, I look forward to Qualcomm's next flagship design. Their newest mid-level chip uses two A76 cores, and these are, in the moment, probably the most powerful cores in any Qualcomm chip, including the 845. So, QC has some serious work on their hand, unless they simply go for quad-core A76 for their big cores and their customization is mainly the "Qualcomm" logo on their new chips.
  • Javert89 - Wednesday, November 14, 2018 - link

    Cortex A76 are used as middle core on the Kirin.. We wait for your review but along the lines of Huawei it seemed that at 1.92 ghz and 0.6 watt an A76 is capable to offer the same performance of a 2.8 ghz 1.2 watt A75.. So may Samsung have got wrong choice of middle core, or an A76 as middle core on 8nm is still too big?

Log in

Don't have an account? Sign up now