Power Consumption

How TDP Works

Over the last decade, while the use of the term TDP (thermal design power) has not changed much, the way that processors use a power budget has. Inside each processor, Intel defines several power levels based on the capabilities and expected operating environments. This sounds all well and good, however these power levels and capabilities can be adjusted at the firmware level, allowing OEMs to decide how they want the processors to perform in their systems. Ultimately it gives a really fuzzy reading at exactly what the power consumption of a processor will be when it is in a system.

To simplify, there are three numbers to be aware of. Intel calls these numbers PL1 (power level 1), PL2 (power level 2), and T (or tau).

  1. PL1 is the effective long-term expected steady state power consumption of a processor. For all intents and purposes, the PL1 is usually defined as the TDP of a processor. So if the TDP is 80W, then PL1 is 80W.
  2. PL2 is the short-term maximum power draw for a processor. This number is higher than PL1, and the processor goes into this state when a workload is applied, allowing the processor to use its turbo modes up to the maximum PL2 value. This means that if Intel has defined a processor with a series of turbo modes, they will only work when PL2 is the driving variable for maximum power consumption. Turbo does not work in PL1 mode.
  3. Tau is a timing variable. It dictates how long a processor should stay in PL2 mode before hitting a PL1 mode. Note that Tau is not dependent on power consumption, nor is it dependent on the temperature of the processor (it is expected that if the processor hits a thermal limit, then a different set of super low voltage/frequency values are used and PL1/PL2 is discarded).

So let us go on a journey where a large workload is applied to a processor.

Firstly, it starts in PL2 mode. If a single-threaded workload is used, then we should hit the top turbo value as listed in the spec sheet. Normally a single thread will consume nowhere near the PL2 power limit. As we load up the cores, the processor reacts by reducing the turbo frequency in line with the per-core turbo values dictated by Intel. If the power consumption of the chip hits the PL2 value, then the frequency is adjusted so PL2 is never exceeded.

When the system has a substantial workload applied for a fixed time, in this case ‘tau’ seconds, the firmware should immediately invoke PL1 as the new power limit. The turbo tables no longer apply.

If the workload applied produces a power consumption above PL1, then the frequency and voltages are adjusted such that the overall power consumption of the chip is within the PL1 value. This usually means that the whole processor reduces in frequency, often to the base frequency, for the duration of the workload. This means that temperatures on the processor should decrease, increasing the longevity of the processor.

PL1 stays in place until the workload is removed and a CPU core hits an idle state for a fixed amount of time (usually sub 5-seconds). After this, the system can re-enable PL2 again if another workload is applied.

So some examples of numbers here – Intel lists several in its specification sheets for the different processors. In this case, I will take a consumer grade Core i7-8700K. For this processor, we have the following:

  • PL1 = TDP = 95 W
  • PL2 = TDP * 1.25 = 118.75 W
  • Tau = 8 seconds

In this case, the system should be able to boost up to ~119W for eight seconds, before being pulled back down to 95W. This has actually been in place for a number of generations of processors, and most of the time it didn’t actually matter, as the power draw for the full chip was often well below the PL1 value even at full load.

However, this is where it gets really stupid: the motherboard vendors got involved, because PL1, PL2 and Tau are configurable in firmware. Motherboard manufacturers can do what they like, and that gets frustrating

With a commercial product like Xeon E, we would expect a motherboard to adhere to Intel’s standards moreso than a high-end consumer motherboard, right? Well we do.

Power (Package), Full Load

The high-end Xeon E-2186G has a TDP of 95W, and a PL2 of 119W, and if we record the load power after a few seconds, it hits 116W. The long term power, measured about 20 seconds into the load, is 95W. For the other chips, they all have a TDP of 80W, and a PL2 of 100W, and we record the short load power at 95-97W, and the long load power at 80W. These numbers stayed true even when we run a workload for a considerable time – so while PL2 and Tau are both set to Intel recommended values. No other desktop processor we've tested has ever done this, unless it was bundled in an SFF system.

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  • bolkhov - Friday, November 9, 2018 - link

    Yes it does.
    72 for ECC vs. 64 for non-ECC.
  • notb - Wednesday, November 7, 2018 - link

    Go ask your IT department if Ryzen's ECC "support" passes their security policy. :-)
  • twtech - Sunday, November 18, 2018 - link

    Most IT departments don't build their own systems. They'll standardize with something like Dell or HP, and maybe do things like RAM/HDD upgrades, etc.

    The cost of the CPU in a system is usually a relatively small cost compared to the overall total. Support costs can dwarf initial purchase costs. The more that a company can standardize their hardware, the easier it is to maintain it.

    For example, IT may want to test patches before letting them be applied across the organization. If, in an ideal scenario, every system was exactly the same, then potentially only one test would be needed to make sure it works properly.

    Of course that often won't be possible, but the closer they can remain to that ideal, the better.
  • HStewart - Monday, November 5, 2018 - link

    To me it looks like AVX 512 gets a whopping 44% ( ~ 5200 / 3600 ) increase on similar equip similar CPU. It would be nice to see same cpu with and without AVX 512 enabled test.
  • osrk - Monday, November 5, 2018 - link

    FYI provantage told me they were getting in their shipment Nov 12. I have one on pre order.
  • Dr_b_ - Monday, November 5, 2018 - link

    Have my 2186G on pre-order with them as well, for over a month now. Already have the 64GB ECC UDIMMs and Asus C-246 Pro board just waiting. IMHO, the biggest let down with the Asus board is that it doesn't have USB 3.1 2.0 header on the motherboard. Have inquiry with Asus about support for 9900K CFL-R CPU's haven't heard back yet.
  • mooninite - Tuesday, November 13, 2018 - link

    Did you get yours shipped out yet? Websites are still showing either "out of stock" or "special order" for these Xeons.
  • osrk - Friday, November 16, 2018 - link

    No. They've had them in and out of stock. If you pre-ordered and the item comes in stock for even a penny more your item will not be shipped. They will only fulfill your order when the item comes into stock for the amount you paid. This has left a very bad taste in my mouth when ordering with Provantage and I'm likely not going to order from them again.

    For example the E-2176G was in stock with them for $1 more than I paid. Did they ship it or notify me that I could pay the extra $1 and have it ship? Nope. I'm writing up my experiences with them on the ratings site.
  • Dragonstongue - Monday, November 5, 2018 - link

    wonder how much of these things tested are "biased" towards making Intel look as "rosy" as possible to steer away any shortcomings.. I would imagine they have very specific test methodology to ensure "weakness" are not shown.. Probably will never happen, but it would be real nice if "everyone" raced on the same track sort of speak so the best "car" wins, not because other "cars" are hobbled by illegitimate tactics.
  • AnnoyedGrunt - Tuesday, November 6, 2018 - link

    Yes, I suspect that Anandtech opened the "hood" on the AMD "cars" and drained their "blinker fluid" and damaged their "muffler bearings" so they couldn't "race" as well.

    I'd go on, but I ran out of quotation marks.

    -AG

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