The Mate 20 & Mate 20 Pro Review: Kirin 980 Powering Two Contrasting Devices
by Andrei Frumusanu on November 16, 2018 8:10 AM EST- Posted in
- Smartphones
- Huawei
- Mobile
- Kirin 980
- Mate 20
- Mate 20 Pro
Camera - Low Light Evaluation - Night Sight
Low-light capture was a forte for Huawei this year, as they were the first to introduce a low-light mode that was able to capture vastly superior exposure shots without having to use a tripod. The results on the P20’s were excellent, so let’s see how the new Mate 20’s fare.
[ Mate 20Pro ] - [ Mate 20 ] - [ P20Pro ]
[ P20 ] - [ Mate 10Pro ] - [ Pixel 3 ] - [ Pixel 2 ]
[ Pixel XL ] - [ iPhone XS ] - [ iPhone X ] - [ Note9 ] - [ S9+ ] - [ S8 ]
[ LG G7 ] - [ LG V30 ] - [ OnePlus 6 ] - [ OPPO FindX ] - [ MIX2S ]
In the first scene, the Mate 20 Pro goes off to a bad start as noted focus issues when capturing the scene. Here the phone multiple times took out of focus captures, with none of my night mode shots actually ending up in focus. In the regular mode, the Mate 20 Pro’s camera switches over to its unique high ISO mode and is able to deliver great results at ISO25600. We have to remember that the phones don’t actually have OIS, so again like on the P20 Pro this is quite remarkable. Also a big change compared to the P20 Pro is the colour rendition, here the Mate 20 Pro is able to extract much better colours out of the scene, and all while reducing noise significantly.
The Mate 20’s regular mode isn’t all that impressive as pretty much in line with how most sensors behave in low light. Here turning on Night mode is a requirement, and greatly improves the picture quality.
Google’s new Night Sight mode outmatches Huawei’s phones in terms of light capture, noise and detail retention, however the images is so bright that it’s less natural than the Mate’s results.
[ Mate 20Pro ] - [ Mate 20 ] - [ P20Pro ] - [ P20 ]
[ Mate 10Pro ] - [ Pixel 3 ] - [ Pixel 2 ] - [ Pixel XL ]
[ iPhone XS ] - [ iPhone X ] - [ Note9 ] - [ S9+ ] - [ S8 ]
[ LG G7 ] - [ LG V30 ] - [ OnePlus 6 ] - [ OPPO FindX ] - [ MIX2S ]
The second scene the Mate 20 Pro does a very different exposure to the P20 Pro, the latter did a much more accurate representation of the brightness and colour temperature of the sodium street lamps. Turning on night mode improved things a lot for both phones.
Overall the Mate 20’s are among the best low light shooters thanks to night mode, only recently dethroned by Google’s Pixel phones.
[ Mate 20Pro ] - [ Mate 20 ] - [ P20 ]
[ Mate 10Pro ] - [ Pixel 3 ] - [ Pixel 2 ] - [ Pixel XL ]
[ iPhone XS ] - [ iPhone X ] - [ Note9 ] [ S9+ ] - [ S8 ]
[ LG V30 ] - [ OnePlus 6 ] - [ OPPO FindX ]
The next scene the Mate 20 Pro varies in its results while in auto mode. The first shot has better dynamic range and also better detail retention, here Huawei needs a way to keep things more consistent. The regular mode on the Mate 20 is also good, although it’s lacking in texture detail as well showing some very weird blur in the right part of the image. Here I think the lack of OIS is hampering the phones.
Turning on night mode again improves the quality, but again the regular Mate 20 is giving out some blurred results here as its multi-frame stacking doesn’t seem to work correctly.
I would say the Mate 20 Pro along with the Pixel’s Night Sight modes are leading closely together.
[ Mate 20Pro ] - [ Mate 20 ] - [ P20Pro ] - [ P20 ]
[ Mate 10Pro ] - [ Pixel 3 ] - [ Pixel 2 ] - [ Pixel XL ]
[ iPhone XS ] - [ iPhone X ] - [ Note9 ] - [ S9+ ] - [ S8 ]
[ LG G7 ] - [ LG V30 ] - [ OnePlus 6 ] - [ OPPO FindX ] - [ MIX2S ]
Partial blurriness is again an issue of the Mate 20 in this scene. The Mate 20 Pro doesn’t have any issue in this regard, and captures the best regular mode shot among all phones.
Switching to night mode, it brightens up things for both units, and also resolves the blurriness issue on the Mate 20. Although Huawei’s phones are showcasing more realistic exposures, the Pixel phones night mode outclass them in terms of detail retention.
[ Mate 20Pro ] - [ Mate 20 ] - [ P20Pro ] - [ P20 ]
[ Mate 10Pro ] - [ Pixel 3 ] - [ Pixel 2 ] - [ Pixel XL ]
[ iPhone XS ] - [ iPhone X ] - [ Note9 ] - [ S9+ ] - [ S8 ]
[ LG G7 ] - [ LG V30 ] - [ OnePlus 6 ] - [ OPPO FindX ] - [ MIX2S ]
This scene again showcases some big blur issues on the regular Mate 20’s auto shots that are only resolved by turning on night mode. The Mate 20 Pro’s auto mode here produces the most natural result out of all phones.
In night mode, things brighten up a bunch, and Huawei manages much better results than other devices, but is yet again beat by Google’s new software.
Extreme low-light
Extreme low light scenarios is something as early as last year we wouldn’t have expected phones to be viable in. Again I started shooting such scenes earlier in the year when Huawei made its Night mode usable without a tripod – along with vendors like LG introducing pixel binning modes that quadruple the light capture of the sensors.
[ Mate 20Pro ] - [ Mate 20 ] - [ P20Pro ] - [ P20 ]
[ Mate 10Pro ] - [ Pixel 3 ] - [ Pixel 2 ] - [ Pixel XL ]
[ iPhone XS ] - [ iPhone X ] [ Note9 ] - [ S9+ ] - [ S8 ]
[ LG G7 ] - [ LG V30 ] - [ OnePlus 6 ] - [ OPPO FindX ] - [ MIX2S ]
In extreme low light scenarios, the Huawei phones were in a league of their own until just very recently. The Mate 20 Pro in its regular mode relies on ISO25600 to achieve a very good shot, beating all other phones including the P20Pro. The Mate 20 doesn’t fare as well here as its sensor just can’t capture enough light.
In night mode, the Mate 20 Pro gains in sharpness and sheds some of the noise, and the Mate 20 now manages to sufficiently light up the scene, although sharpness and detail aren’t too good. Although the Huawei again have a better natural reproduction of the light in the scene, Google’s night sight just produces a just ridiculously brighter scene that offers significantly better details.
[ Mate 20Pro ] - [ Mate 20 ] - [ P20Pro ] - [ Mate 10Pro ]
[ Pixel 3 ] - [ Pixel 2 ] - [ Pixel XL ]
[ iPhone XS ] - [ iPhone X ] - [ Note9 ] - [ S9+ ] - [ S8 ]
[ LG G7 ] - [ LG V30 ] - [ OnePlus 6 ] - [ OPPO FindX ] - [ MIX2S ]
Finally, in the darkest possible conditions, in a path under the light of the moon, the Mate 20 Pro and P20 Pro are the only camera sensors able to capture anything, with the Mate 20 Pro using its maximum ISO102400 mode. The Mate 20 largely remains blind. Night mode on the Mate 20 Pro actually regresses things in these conditions, while on the Mate 20 it allows to finally make out some parts of the scene.
Again both phones are beat by Google’s new night sight, achieving some pretty astounding results.
Low-light conclusion
Overall in low light conditions, the Mate 20 Pro is a clear leader in terms of its hardware capabilities. Just like on the P20 Pro, the massive sensor as well as is high ISO capabilities prove very beneficial for the phone.
The Mate 20 fared less well in regular mode, and underperforms most other flagships. Here the use of night mode is a requirement to get better shots out of the phone.
Up until recently this would have been the end of my conclusion, but the recent introduction of Google’s new night sight mode means that Huawei no longer is the best in low-light conditions. While I do feel that Google is overdoing it a bit and Huawei still produces the more realistic and representative exposures, the Pixel phones just have a tremendous detail and noise reduction advantage. Still, this is not to take away from Huawei’s great low-light performances, as it still stands above that of many other devices.
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cha0z_ - Tuesday, November 20, 2018 - link
I don't like how the best phone samsung made this year is not here (the note 9). That phone has a lot bigger body vs s9 and 3 times bigger heatpipe that is also better (the body of the phone heats, but the SOC is not throttled. Actually note 9 in heavy use is hotter than the s9+ but sustains better ;) ) + it's tweaked not for peak performance, but sustained performance + samsung DID improve the kernel and the control of the exynos 9810. I am sure all the factors will lead to noticeable difference compared to the s9 exynos tests from the start of the year.I know that you are tired of the exynos 9810, we all know that chip is far worse than the rivals, but still it would be better to show it in it's best light instead of the all negativity. Comparing in a single table a phone twitce smaller than the other and drawing conclusions about the SOCs inside is plain wrong.
eastcoast_pete - Tuesday, November 20, 2018 - link
@Andrei:Any statement from Huawei on how long they will continue to provide OS updates for, and how quickly after Google releases them? With prices approaching 1000 dollars/euros/pounds, the old "release and abandon" would be a bit too much. Thanks!abufrejoval - Tuesday, November 20, 2018 - link
It doesn't get any better: Here you have all the hardware to turn into a credible workstation with sufficient compute, gaming and even inference power to do 90% of what normal PC users would need with UPS, storage and a high resolution touch screen included at pocket size and laptop budgets....But you simply cannot get the power onto a screen large enough to work with all day (Miracast is really doesn't have acceptable fidelity)
And they simply won't let you take control over what could be a very personal and very portable workstation, because they deny you control over the computer you purchased (no rooting).
All that power in a form factor that precludes putting it to work just drives me knocking my head into the wall!
whyamihere - Thursday, November 22, 2018 - link
If possible do you think you could look at the power consumption of a BOE screen on the Mate 20 pro. I'm wondering if the battery issues you saw on the pro model had to do with the LG screen, as LG screens on the pro model seem to have issues such as really bad green tint that gets worse over time.Jalk44 - Thursday, November 22, 2018 - link
A: it's not the first QHD phone by Huawei,that's was the mate 9 proB: it's also not the first phone with both front and back full curved glass, that would be the mate rs
MyFluxi - Thursday, November 22, 2018 - link
hey, can you do a screen battery test with the BOE screen and also a general review on the boe screen. some saying that the vibrancy is less on the BOE but the uniformity is betterballsystemlord - Friday, November 23, 2018 - link
Hi. Your local S+G corrector here. Todays mistake is an obvious one, the word "if" should be substituted by the word "is"."Here acceleration if facilitated through the HVX DSPs."
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"Here acceleration is facilitated through the HVX DSPs."
I lightly read the last 3 pages. I got tired of reading everything.
salbashi - Tuesday, November 27, 2018 - link
Did Anandtech notice any benchmark mode on Mate 20 or Mate 20 Pro this time around?Cause that would be Huawei caught cheating again right after P20 and P20 Pro.
Davidsic - Wednesday, November 28, 2018 - link
Hello, my first Mate 20 Pro had the same brightness anomaly you are talking about (LG screen) and my second one that i recieved yesterday have the same issue and it's a BOE screen !AlexTi - Sunday, March 17, 2019 - link
Mate 20 having Qi wireless charging possibility seems to be a mistake in specifications. The one I've just bought definitely lacks it (model number HMA-L29), and specs on Huawei website do not include this feature for non-Pro Mate 20.