Qualcomm Reveals The Snapdragon 670 Platform: Dual Big Cores + Adreno 615
by Andrei Frumusanu on August 8, 2018 7:30 AM EST- Posted in
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Today Qualcomm is announcing a new entry in the 600-series mid-range line-up. In a surprise move, the new Snapdragon 670 is a direct successor to the Snapdragon 660, and is intended to fill the gap between the 600-series and the newly introduced Snapdragon 710.
As a quick refresher, the Snapdragon 710 was released this year as the first entry in the new Snapdragon 700 tier of SoCs. The 700 series is intended to sit between the existing 600 and 800 series, offering many of Qualcomm's flagship features at a lower cost, something that's been in demand from handset vendors who are looking at putting together high-performance phones for more price-conscientious buyers.
The new Snapdragon 670, in turn, seems to be directly derived from the 710, as the two are so close in specifications that at first glance it's easy to miss the differences.
Qualcomm Snapdragon Upper Mid-Range SoCs | |||
SoC | Snapdragon 660 | Snapdragon 670 | Snapdragon 710 |
CPU | 4x Kryo 260 (CA73) @ 2.2GHz 4x Kryo 260 (CA53) @ 1.8GHz |
2x Kryo 360 (CA75) @ 2.0GHz 6x Kryo 360 (CA55) @ 1.7GHz |
2x Kryo 360 (CA75) @ 2.2GHz 6x Kryo 360 (CA55) @ 1.7GHz |
GPU | Adreno 512 | Adreno 615 | Adreno 616 |
DSP | Hexagon 680 | Hexagon 685 | |
ISP/ Camera |
Spectra 160 ISP 24MP |
Spectra 250 ISP 25MP single / 16MP dual |
Spectra 250 ISP 32MP single / 20MP dual |
Memory | 2x 16-bit @ 1866MHz LPDDR4 14.9GB/s |
2x 16-bit @ 1866MHz LPDDR4X 14.9GB/s 1MB? system cache |
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Integrated Modem | Snapdragon X12 LTE (Category 12/13) DL = 600Mbps 3x20MHz CA, 256-QAM UL = 150Mbps 2x20MHz CA, 64-QAM |
Snapdragon X12 LTE (Category 15/13) DL = 600Mbps 3x20MHz CA, 256-QAM UL = 150Mbps 2x20MHz CA, 64-QAM |
Snapdragon X15 LTE (Category 15/13) DL = 800Mbps 3x20MHz CA, 256-QAM UL = 150Mbps 2x20MHz CA, 64-QAM |
Encode/ Decode |
2160p30, 1080p120 H.264 & H.265 |
2160p30, 1080p120 H.264 & H.265 |
2160p30, 1080p120 H.264 & H.265 10-bit HDR pipelines |
Mfc. Process | 14nm LPP | 10nm LPP |
The Snapdragon 670 uses the same CPU configuration as found on the Snapdragon 710. The new Kryo 360 performance and efficiency cores are based on Cortex A75 and A55 IP designs and come in a configuration of 2x big cores at 2.0GHz and 6x small cores at 1.7GHz. This is a slight 200MHz downgrade from the 710’s 2.2GHz cores. It’s to be noted that as a direct successor to the 660, we’re losing two big cores, so multithreaded performance might not see much of an upgrade on the new chip.
The GPU is also a new Adreno 6xx generation design in the form of a 615 implementation. Obviously we don’t know much at all from just the model number, but it being numerically inferior to the S710’s Adreno 616, performance should be slightly less. Qualcomm promises a performance increase of 25% over the Snapdragon 660, while the 710 promised a 35% increase in the same comparison.
The 670’s DSP and ISP are identical in terms of design to the 710’s – however they’re run at a lower clockspeed and subsequently support a lower maximum resolution.
One of the other feature shavings is that the 670 doesn’t support 4x4 MIMO on the modem, and thus the X12 modem has a lower download speed of up to 600Mbps versus 800Mbps on the 710.
Finally, the other seemingly important discrepancy here is the lack of 10-bit display pipelines and accompanying support on the part of the encoders, so HDR capture isn’t a feature on the 670. The display controller also is less capable and only able to drive FHD+ resolutions as opposed to the QHD+ capabilitites of the 710.
Like the 710, the 670 is manufactured on a newer 10LPP process node, so it should benefit from the same power efficiency gains as its higher end sibling.
The Snapdragon 670 is a surprising chipset in terms of its positioning because it’s not that far off from the Snapdragon 710. When briefed about the new model the first thing I thought was if this would be actually just a lower binned 710 – but Qualcomm confirmed that this is indeed a "different design". The market at these lower ranges is extremely competitive, and while the 670 does seemingly allow itself to shed some feature, I have to wonder just exactly how much silicon is saved as well as die area reduced in order for Qualcomm to decide that it’s actually worth to design and tape out a product to fill this lower price point under the 710. Seemingly, customers must have had demand for it otherwise it wouldn’t exist, and in a sense, it shows Qualcomm’s strength in terms of being customer demand driven and adapting fast to the market.
The last advantage of the Snapdragon 670 in this aspect is that it’s pin and software compatible to the Snapdragon 710, allowing vendors to choose between them with minimal engineering efforts.
The Snapdragon 670 is currently available and commercial devices are expected within the coming months.
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satai - Wednesday, August 8, 2018 - link
Qualcomm branding "system" is a mess.drexnx - Wednesday, August 8, 2018 - link
it usually made no sense - remember the QSD8250/MSM7255 days?it only ever briefly made sense with the S1/S2/S3/S4 branding, and that lasted like a year?
phoenix_rizzen - Wednesday, August 8, 2018 - link
Yeah. This really should be an SD700, not an SD670. But, the whole 600-series of SoCs is a mess.Valantar - Wednesday, August 8, 2018 - link
Hm. Could this (or the 710) be what OnePlus needs to get back to the $400-ish price range? To make things simple, reuse the same case (and brand the phones with a "cheaper/slower" suffix - 6L?), cut the RAM a bit, and stick a slightly lower-end but still okay camera (maybe just whatever was in the 3T or 5?) in there and you'd have a winner. Not that I'll be replacing my 3T any time soon, but I'm tired of the incessant price hikes for high-end devices and the ridiculous tradeoffs in even the upper mid-range. If the options are paying $7-800 for an actual upgrade or $4-600 for a sidegrade from a 2-year-old device, I'll hang onto what I have for as long as possible, thanks.PocoLoco - Monday, August 20, 2018 - link
Exactly what I need right now. With the metal body of the 3T.ZolaIII - Wednesday, August 8, 2018 - link
It's only slightly lower clocked S710 regarding all primary blocks (CPU, GPU, IPS, DSP), they just typed out old modem and some secondary smaller blocks. It didn't cost much to design, will be only little cheaper to produce (so little that it's not justified at all) & world could have gone without it. On the other hand it will be a most efficient midrange SoC available. We will see how good will the OEM adaption go.Rocket321 - Wednesday, August 8, 2018 - link
I'm glad to see "big cores" making their way down range. Now if we can actually get some decent phones compatible with US networks based on these chips and not priced at flagship prices.SquarePeg - Wednesday, August 8, 2018 - link
I'd love to have this SoC in my next phone. I don't give a shit about flagship phones and their corresponding prices.✓ 2160 x 1080 OLED display @ 6 inches
✓ 4gb dual channel LP ram
✓ 64gb UFS storage + microsd
✓ Good enough camera
✓ 3500+ mAh battery
✓ works on the big 4 carriers in the US
✓✓✓ high impact polycarbonate build with rubberized corner bumpers so that it needs no case but can survive multiple drops.
✓ $399
quadrivial - Wednesday, August 8, 2018 - link
The old Lumia (well, actually Meego N9) polycarbonate design with updated guts would be amazing.SquarePeg - Wednesday, August 8, 2018 - link
Hell yes. I loved the old Nokia polycarbonate designs. Just round off the corners a bit for durability and the N9 design would be great.