Enough Jibber-Jabber, Show Me the Money Chips

All-in-all, the new chips look a lot like the old ones:

AMD sampled us the 2990WX and the 2950X for our launch day review. Both of these CPUs are coming out in August, first with the 2990WX on the 13th, and then with the 2950X on the 31st.

On the rear, there are slightly different component arrangements to account for the different dies that are active:


2990WX (left) and 2950X (right)

The packaging is certainly different, with AMD taking into account the public's commentary about the packaging from the first generation. My only feedback to AMD on this is to make the new CPU packaging stackable – as a reviewer having these chips around un-stacked is an organizational nightmare.

Also in the box is a Torx screwdriver for the socket and an Asetek water cooler bracket, as with the first generation.

If we add some EPYCness to the mix, there’s a pretty pattern. Here are 172 cores of Zen:

AMD also bundled two motherboards with the press kits: a second revision of the ASUS X399 Zenith Extreme, with a new VRM cooling kit, and the MSI X399 MEG Creation, the 19-phase monster seen at Computex.

At first, Summer wasn’t interested.

Then she had a sniff.

Now they are good friends. I think. (ed: Ian, if you kill that processor with static electricity, I will end you)

A side note about stacking. The processors do kind of stack on their own.

But this isn’t an advised strategy.

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  • Ian Cutress - Monday, August 6, 2018 - link

    I put the asterisk in to initially signify it was different, then put AMD result in just in case people took the graph without taking the context, forgot to remove the asterisk. Should be fixed.
  • DanNeely - Monday, August 6, 2018 - link

    I think I'm still a bit confused about what/why you did because I think an unverified (or at least one you can't say if is/isn't representative of what your internal testing is for a few more days) result from an OEM should be called out if put in a chart with results you and/or other testers generated directly.
  • Spunjji - Tuesday, August 7, 2018 - link

    It's mentioned in the pre-amble and labelled "AMD Result" in the chart now, which I found pretty unambiguous.
  • DanNeely - Tuesday, August 7, 2018 - link

    It's marked as such now, it wasn't when I commented.
  • jcc5169 - Monday, August 6, 2018 - link

    Did you mean to show "Ryzen 7 2800X" or is that a typo?
  • Mday - Monday, August 6, 2018 - link

    It was a typo. The specs were for the 2700x.
  • maroon1 - Monday, August 6, 2018 - link

    Cinebench would be like best case scenario for AMD 32 cores

    Not saying that it is bad thing. but you should expect the gap to be lower once you use other benchmarks. Cinebench scales very well with cores. but not only that. It also like ryzen more than intel unlike most other benchmarks. And there is no surprise that AMD started using that benchmark for their advertisement after they release ryzen
  • rUmX - Monday, August 6, 2018 - link

    Every company would use a benchmark that would show their product in the best light. However I'm interested in knowing what the average turbo speeds for each clock rate. What will the difference be if one used that 500w AiO compared to stock cooling.
  • blppt - Monday, August 6, 2018 - link

    Not sure why you've concluded that CB R15 favors Ryzen---the 16/32 7960X (barely) beats the 1950X, which seems about right to me. With all 16 (32) cores saturated, the 1950X tops out at 3.4ghz turbo, and the 7960X is somewhere around 3.6.
  • maroon1 - Monday, August 6, 2018 - link

    8700K only beats 2600X by 6.4% in cinebench from what I've seen. Yet in almost every other non-gaming benchmarks it show more than 6.4%.

    Even AMD slides themselves show that cinebench favor ryzen, even among other 3d rendering benchmarks
    https://screenshotscdn.firefoxusercontent.com/imag...

    You should except things to be even worse if you use something like H.265 encoding because does not scale with cores like rendering benchmarks

    While 2990WX is going to be faster than intel 7980X overall, the gap is not going to be 50% or even close. I expect to be maybe 30% (if not less) faster on average

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