AMD Ryzen 5 2400G and Ryzen 3 2200G Integrated Graphics Frequency Scaling
by Gavin Bonshor on September 28, 2018 12:30 PM EST- Posted in
- CPUs
- AMD
- GPUs
- Overclocking
- Zen
- APU
- Vega
- Ryzen
- Ryzen 3 2200G
- Ryzen 5 2400G
Ryzen 5 2400G Integrated Graphics Performance
Shadow of Mordor
The next title in our testing is a battle of system performance with the open world action-adventure title, Middle Earth: Shadow of Mordor (SoM for short). Produced by Monolith and using the LithTech Jupiter EX engine and numerous detail add-ons, SoM goes for detail and complexity.
The main story itself was written by the same writer as Red Dead Redemption, and it received Zero Punctuation’s Game of The Year in 2014.
The 2400G saw consistent gains in the average frame rate performance at each of the different frequencies tested while the 99th percentiles were somewhat arbitrary up until 1250 MHz and then again beyond.
F1 2017
Released in the same year as the title suggests, F1 2017 is the ninth variant of the franchise to be published and developed by Codemasters. The game is based around the F1 2017 season and has been and licensed by the sports official governing body, the Federation Internationale de l’Automobile (FIA).
F1 2017 features all twenty racing circuits, all twenty drivers across ten teams and allows F1 fans to immerse themselves into the world of Formula One with a rather comprehensive world championship season mode.
While the average frames showed consistency from 1100 MHz to 1600 MHz on the integrated graphics core, the 99th percentile frames unfortunately didn’t give us the same results. The 99th percentiles came across a little irrational up until 1250 MHz with the iGPU set at 1500 MHz showing the biggest discretion. Everything else however seemed normal and is put down to an anomaly.
Total War: WARHAMMER 2
Not only is the Total War franchise one of the most popular real-time tactical strategy titles of all time, but Sega delve into multiple worlds such as the Roman Empire, Napoleonic era and even Attila the Hun, but more recently they nosedived into the world of Games Workshop via the WARHAMMER series.
Developers Creative Assembly have used their latest RTS battle title with the much talked about DirectX 12 API, just like the original version, Total War: WARHAMMER, so that this title can benefit from all the associated features that comes with it. The game itself is very CPU intensive and is capable of pushing any top end system to their limits.
In Total War: Warhammer 2 the average frame and 99th percentile performance displayed by the 2400G was consistently better through each of the 50 MHz straps on the iGPU. The performance on average frame rates from 1150 MHz to 1600 MHz marks a 5 FPS increase from the bottom frequency tested to the top. The 99th percentile frame rate performance was all over the place and was not consistent.
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Lolimaster - Saturday, September 29, 2018 - link
There was an issue on the APU's were at certain frequencies the clock rate would jump around giving you nasty minimun (shown on many early reviews) and then after a certain threshold, the clock will not jump around like crazy, consistently beating the GT1030 at almost any scenario.ipkh - Friday, September 28, 2018 - link
So how about a Memory plus GPU overclock since those 2 combined would make the most difference.lightningz71 - Saturday, September 29, 2018 - link
Buildazoid showed that significant overclock on both the iGPU and the RAM was quite difficult. The iGPU reacted negatively to lower SOC voltage whereas the memory controller disliked higher SOC voltages. The happy medium seemed to be an iGPU at 1600mhz and running the ram at 3200-3400 mhz with the tightest possible timings. Leave the CPU cores at stock to maximize package power and thermal budget for the iGPU.The_Assimilator - Friday, September 28, 2018 - link
Anyone who knows discrete Vega knows it runs hungry and hot at stock frequencies and even worse when overclocked, but is far better behaved when underclocked and/or undervolted. Hence why these Vega iGPUs have so much OC headroom: they're deliberately being run slow in order to hit an acceptable power/heat target.Given that, the omission of power usage and temperature data from this review is glaring, to say the least.
jensend - Saturday, September 29, 2018 - link
I agree that 'overclocking scaling' reviews that don't show how power and temperature scale are failures. I wouldn't overclock the 2400G for tiny gains and large power/temperature/etc drawbacks.The one interesting conclusion that can be drawn from this piece is that the 2400G's shader etc performance at stock is high enough that at 1080p the bottlenecks are generally elsewhere (esp memory), while that's not as true of the 2200G. (We already kind of knew that from the memory scaling article.)
Nagorak - Saturday, September 29, 2018 - link
I agree, just posted the same myself.Lolimaster - Saturday, September 29, 2018 - link
Still the best reviewer for APU's, specailly OCing scaling and different resolution is techepiphany on youtube, shame on anandtech, they can't even do a proper review for an APU, just a lazy thing.Nagorak - Saturday, September 29, 2018 - link
I kind of feel like this is incomplete without some comparison of power use and heat generation. Maybe not at every frequency but it would be nice to see stock vs max OC at least. Based on the results with Vega GPUs it seems likely that efficiency craters as you go higher. It would be nice to know at least.neblogai - Saturday, September 29, 2018 - link
~50W higher power use is usually not an issue if total system power use is ~150W. But it would be useful to look at it from the point of motherboard SOC VRM ability. Raven Ridge chips are a budget option, so are usually used with cheaper B350 motherboards; however, those often do not have good SOC VRMs(and radiator on them) for extra power overclocked Vega iGPU consumes.notashill - Saturday, September 29, 2018 - link
The other big practical concern for budget builds is the need to spend more money on cooling. The cooler used in this review costs more than the 2400G so it would be totally nonsensical to actually use. Do they actually need crazy cooling to hit these overclocks, or is something like a $30 212 EVO enough?