Camera - Low Light Evaluation

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[ G7 ] - [ G6 ] - [ V30
[ Mi MIX 2S ] - [ Pixel 2 XL ] - [ Mate 10 ] - [ P20 ]
OnePlus 6  - [ P20 Pro ] - [ S8 ] - [ S9+ ] - [ iPhone X ]

Switching over to the low-light scenarios, the first scene already again shows the inconsistency of the G7 in deciding on a good exposure. Although the G7 isn’t really alone here and both the G6 and V30 needed help to point out what the main subject is.

Again coming back and doing an apples-to-apples between the G7 and V30 (  vs shots) which have both respectively 1/25s ISO200 and 1/24s ISO400 – I can’t understand how the G7 manages to produce a much noisier picture even though by all means it should have had the clearer shot due to the lower ISO setting. It also continues to blur out details in a much worse manner.

The only positive here is that the HDR processing did manage to produce a quite good result – at least in shot 1.

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[ G7 ] - [ G6 ] - [ V30 ] - [ Mi MIX 2S ] - [ Pixel 2 XL ] - [ Mate 10 ]
[ P20 ] - [ P20 Pro ] - [ S8 ] - [ S9+ ] - [ iPhone X ]
OnePlus 6    ]

The next shot we finally see a result in which the G7 doesn’t obviously blur out the details. The result is quite good overall, although the colour temperature is a tad too warm but that’s also something a lot of phones had trouble with in terms of white street lights.

Here it’s also visible that the 1µm pixel pitch sensor is limiting the dynamic range as the larger sensor phones have better shadow definitions throughout the scene.

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[ G7 ] - [ G6 ] - [ V30 ] - [ Mi MIX 2S ] - [ Pixel 2 XL ]
[ Mate 10 ] - [ P20 ] - [ P20 Pro ]
OnePlus 6  ] - [ S8 ] - [ S9+ ] - [ iPhone X ]

Here’s another shot where the G7 doesn’t apply its super harsh water-colour effect, and I would say it’s for once finally a clear winner overall over the V30. The result is actually extremely competitive with most other flagships – while it loses to some out in dynamic range, the overall combination of the exposure and detail retention is pretty balanced.

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[ G7 ] - [ G6 ] - [ V30 ] - [ Mi MIX 2S ] - [ Pixel 2 XL ]
[ Mate 10 ] - [ P20 ] - [ P20 Pro ]
OnePlus 6  ] - [ S8 ] - [ S9+ ] - [ iPhone X ]

In this last low-light shot the one thing that is blatantly wrong is the colour temperature – again this is a regression to the V30, but at least it’s not as awfully off as on the G6.

Please note that both G7 shots were shot at the same settings – 1/14s at ISO750, yet the second shot is far worse and this is probably the single best before-and-after in terms of showing what the processing is doing to the capture. The  is the heavily processed one. The phone is attempting to balance out the luminance in the shot but what is happening is it’s also bringing out the noise with it – this is especially visible in the sky.

The compressed rubber turf is naturally porous and here again the G7’s processing just loses all of its texture definition – look at the P20 Pro for the best baseline comparison.

Overall again the G7 regresses in practically every aspect compared to the V30 in this shot.

Extreme Low Light

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[ G7 ] - [ G6 ] - [ V30 ] - [ Mi MIX 2S ] - [ Pixel 2 XL ]
[ Mate 10 ] - [ P20 ] - [ P20 Pro ]
OnePlus 6  ] - [ S8 ] - [ S9+ ] - [ iPhone X ]

The V30s introduced the “Low-light shot” mode and was backported to the V30. The G7 includes it as well and under a certain threshold (if enabled in the settings) it switches over to LLS mode. This is a 2x2 pixel binning mode with a quarter of the resolution, but drastically increases light sensitivity.

The extreme-low-light scenario is essentially there to see how the phones perform under very dark conditions where you wouldn’t normally expect to capture much. Recent development in computational photography and special capture modes such as pixel-binning on the camera sensor have recently allowed phones to finally make this a somewhat viable scenario for newer smartphones.

The G7 here produces a very bright result which does beat most other phones. Looking at the EXIF data both the V30 and G7 did a 1/7s exposure, but the V30 doesn’t have any ISO entry while the G7 says it’s at ISO2250. Usually when the EXIF data doesn’t get populated it’s because the resulting image went through heavy processing, and there’s a notable difference between the G7 and V30 again as the latter, while being a bit darker, produced a much clearer and sharper image.

Low Light Conclusion

Unfortunately, while the G7 did fare a bit better in some low-light scenarios, it overall still represented a regression over the V30.

There’s just no real excuse for LG here as all it had to do to maintain camera quality was to port over the existing camera calibration and processing from the V30 to serve as a baseline. Instead it looks like LG started from scratch, and somewhere in the process they forgot to finish the work. I’ve heard from a lot of vendors that the camera is usually the last thing that’s developed during the bring-up of a new phone platform, but to have such a regression over a previous generation phone in a company's line-up is something that I haven’t really seen before.

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  • johntmosher - Thursday, August 9, 2018 - link

    My LG G4 died from Boot Loop a little over a month after the warranty expired. Verizon and LG did not offer anything to make up for the fact that it was sold to me at a time when they already knew about the Boot Loop failure rates. LG and Verizon are both on my shit list and will stay that way for quite some time.
  • takeshi7 - Thursday, August 9, 2018 - link

    I don't care about waterproofing on my phone. LG needs to bring back removable batteries. That's the whole reason I bought their phones. If I want waterproofing I'll go out and buy a waterproof case.
  • UtilityMax - Friday, August 10, 2018 - link

    Just buy a power bank. Removable battery as a run time extender is as inconvenient as it gets. Also, some of those low-end smartphones with A53 CPUs as their main cores can get an amazing run time. I can forget to charge my honor 6X and it can still last through the day with just 40% in the morning.
  • jabber - Saturday, August 11, 2018 - link

    Yeah I have a LG G4 which has been a great phone but this September I am coming up for three years with it and was going to replace it (probably a G6). However, I remembered I could change the battery and really the G4 still does everything I need so I just got a new battery. Sorted for another year at least...
  • Dragonstongue - Thursday, August 9, 2018 - link

    so even higher specs with a low Mah battery, for shame..."modern" smartphones IMO especially the ones that have high to very high end (for phone) specs should not hamper them with "normal" size batteries that tend to be in the range of 2200-3200 they should be targeting a minimum of 3200-4200 range, especially when they have the space to cram a larger battery in there (which many of them do)

    I just don't get t when "knock off" brands manage to often use a better display AND larger battery, shame of the bigger companies expecting as much $ as they can think to get away charging and using a dinky little battery....example even lower spec G4 Play had a 2800Mah battery REMOVABLE, this is much higher spec but barely any increase in battery capacity, I do not give a crud what OS version it is using, the capacity of the battery matters very much >:(
  • Xex360 - Thursday, August 9, 2018 - link

    The notch again no innovation especially from LG, I had the V20 and the second screen can be very useful and didn't ruin the whole experience, the G6 were nearly perfect beside the decision to use a year old SOC plus no wireless charging.
  • hirschma - Thursday, August 9, 2018 - link

    The LG V35 is what should be the flagship. Better specs, better display, more memory, plus the audio, wide angle camera and 845 from the G7. I've had mine for a week, and it's definitely the best phone I've ever had.
  • Hubb1e - Thursday, August 9, 2018 - link

    I got this phone after some bad experiences with Samsung and this is the most accurate review of it I've seen to date. The biggest downside for the G7 is the unreliable camera. Some shots are okay, some are downright bad. And most reviewers don't shoot pictures of moving subjects, but the G7 consistently misses focus on moving subjects. All the issues with the camera in this review I've seen in my use. Most of it I think is related to it's inability to auto focus on the correct subject. When using manual focus, the camera actually takes good pictures.

    The rest of the phone is actually really great. I don't notice the color calibration in regular use, and the speaker is great even if other flagships also offer great speakers. The size of the phone is the best out there. It is comfortable and has a large screen without feeling too wide to hold and use in one hand. While I do mostly use BT headphones, I have a range of wired headphones and when I use them they sound amazing on the G7 in comparison to other phone's weak headphone output.

    And the last great feature, but one that was not touched on in this review, is the outstanding idle battery life of the G7. Even with the always on display enabled, the G7 barely loses any charge when idle. If I don't use my phone very much, I can end the day with 80% of my battery life left. Most days I have 40-50% of battery left over even taking pictures, making calls, watching videos, and browsing the web. In comparison to Samsung phones I've had that can lose 5% an hour at idle, the idle power use of the G7 makes it outlast every other phone I've ever used.
  • SkyBill40 - Thursday, August 9, 2018 - link

    I have a V30 after having upgraded from a V10 a while back. Personally speaking, I'd rate the V series above the G series but that's just me. I can say that I've been quite satisfied with my V30 and given how close to each other these phones happen to be, it wouldn't be worth it to "upgrade."

    LG has come a long way with their phones (that boot loop issue was a killer) and are genuinely competitive with every other high end device out there.
  • Lavkesh - Thursday, August 9, 2018 - link

    Its amazing how average these so called Android flagships are when compared to the iPhone where every details is thought out. The worst thing is that they arent cheap either.

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