Camera - Architecture & UI

The main camera on the LG G7 differs very little from what the V30 incorporated. The sensor is still a Sony IMX351 which offers an active pixel matrix of 4656 x 3496 (16MP). The downside here is that this is a rather small 1/3.09” sensor which results in 1µm pixel pitches. As this is the same sensor as used in the LG V30 – I’m not too worried about the performance as we saw very competitive results from the sister flagship. The lens has an f/1.6 aperture, a viewing angle of 70°, and the module supports an OIS mechanism.

The wide angle camera is one of LG’s flagships’ distinguishing feature as we saw essentially no other mainstream vendor adopt the same type of camera, with most of them opting for telephoto lenses in their secondary modules. The G7 continues the trend here, but fine-tunes the wide-angle camera a bit. We’re seeing the exact same sensor as on the main camera, but the lens system has changed as this is now an f/1.9 lens with a slightly reduced wide viewing angle of 107° rather than the 125° optics found in the G6 and V30. The reduced viewing angle is meant to reduce the more extreme cases of fish-eye effect and also reduce chromatic aberrations on the edges of the image. The wide-angle module doesn't sport OIS.

Camera software wise, there’s little change from what we saw on the updated V30 firmware – both camera applications offer a wide variety of features without being cumbersome to the capturing experience. The AICam which was introduced in the V30s and backported to the V30 is also part of the G7’s camera. Unfortunately as we’ll see in the following evaluation the results of the AICam capture results are quite disappointing and are no better than a gimmick, resulting in mostly detrimental image quality in most scenarios.

Camera - Daylight Evaluation

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[ G7 ] - [ G6 ] - [ V30 ]
[ Mi MIX 2S ] - [ Pixel 2 XL ] - [ Mate 10 ] - [ P20 ]
OnePlus 6  ] - [ P20 Pro ] - [ S8 ] - [ S9+ ] - [ iPhone X ]

In the first scenario the G7 offers a very similar exposure and colour balance to the G6 and V30 – although it’s ever so slightly more exposed at 1/1042s versus the V30’s 1/1207s take. The G7 offered slightly lower dynamic range through more reduced highlights and darker shadows than say the S9 or OnePlus 6, but the overall result was still very good and among the top performers.

In terms of detail retention there’s however some glaring differences between the G7 and the V30. If one opens the images in their native resolution, it's plainly visible that the G7 has vastly different processing in place. The result is a watercolour-like effect on all details throughout the scene and most blatantly visible in the leaves of all greenery throughout the picture. The effect is also very notable on the edges of objects throughout the picture, and is seemingly applied non-discriminately to almost all scenarios.

Switching over to the wide-angle shot, we see the differences between the G6 and V30’s modules and the G7’s new shooter: the G7 is able to capture a more natural wide dynamic range, capturing more details in the shadows. I do prefer the V30’s better retention of highlights as it’s a more accurate representation of the very bright conditions of the scene.

An interesting phenomenon that we’ll see more often today, is an odd behaviour of the camera and its processing: When shooting pictures rapidly in succession, the camera software seems to fall behind in terms of producing processed images, and the result is closer to the result of what the sensor is actually capturing. This can be seen in the versus comparison; the latter shot was shot sequentially within the same second. This is extremely valuable as we can directly see what kind of processing is done on the picture, and what’s obvious is that there’s a noise reduction filter which smudges the details, as well as the effect of a sharpening filter applied on top. There’s also some software HDR processing going on in attempting to bring out more highlights in the picture.

The noise reduction filter in particular is very destructive and it makes it easier to understand what’s happening on the main camera photo samples.

Of course, the fact that the camera’s processing suddenly doesn’t work when capturing pictures in quick succession is something that shouldn’t be happening in the first place. I’ve actually encountered the same behaviour on the V30 in past camera evaluations, but now it looks that this is very much a characteristic behaviour of LG’s camera software.

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[ G7 ] - [ G6 ] - [ V30 ]
[ Mi MIX 2S ] - [ Pixel 2 XL ] - [ Mate 10 ] - [ P20 ]
[ P20 Pro ] - [ S9+ ]
OnePlus 6  ] - [ iPhone X ]

The next shot the G7 doesn’t fare well at all. First of all the phone was extremely inconsistent on deciding on the exposure and processing. In the first auto shot the camera does a relatively longer exposure at 1/1205s which is actually longer than the V30’s 1/1884 take. The problem is that the software falls prey to typical over-processing and destroys most highlights in the scene, resulting in a very flat image with very little remaining dynamic range. Compared to the V30 shot, the G7 performs terribly here.

In the auto and , the G7 severely underexposes. Even worse is that it couldn’t decide between HDR processing or not, and this wasn’t an issue of quick subsequent shots as described earlier.

Detail retention was just abysmal, this is essentially the same camera hardware as on the V30 yet what the G7 outputs couldn’t be more further away from the sister flagship’s shot.

Using the AICam in this scene amounts to nothing more than a simple colour filter and brings no advantage whatsoever.

Unfortunately what was said about the main camera also applies to the wide-angle lens, as the camera couldn’t manage to maintain higher levels, having worse results than the G6 and particularly the V30.  The AICam here also doesn’t help beyond an increase in colour saturation.

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[ G7 ] - [ G6 ] - [ V30 ]
[ Mi MIX 2S ] - [ Pixel 2 XL ] - [ Mate 10 ]
[ P20 ] - [ P20 Pro ]
OnePlus 6  ] - [ S9+ ] - [ iPhone X ]

This is admittedly a tough shot as we’re facing against the sun, but there’s several devices which do manage good results. The G7 produces again a far too dark shot, crushing the dynamic range of the picture. Detail retention suffers the same massive issues as previous scenes.

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 [ G7 ] - [ G6 ] - [ V30 ]
[ Mi MIX 2S ] - [ Pixel 2 XL ] - [ Mate 10 ]
[ P20 ] - [ P20 Pro ]
OnePlus 6  ] - [ S8 ] - [ S9+ ] - [ iPhone X ]

This last shot with a lot of green landscape is again a large miss on the part of the G7. Note the stark difference in processing between the G7 and V30, with the latter producing a vastly superior result. Detail retention is again disappointing.

To be noted here is the difference of the AICam effect on the V30 versus on the G7, the latter uses a more heavy-handed approach to the effect while the V30’s result is still pleasing.

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[ G7 ] - [ G6 ]
[ V30 ] - [ Mi MIX 2S ] - [ Pixel 2 XL ] - OnePlus 6  ]
[ Mate 10 ] - [ P20 ] - [ P20 Pro ] - [ S8 ] - [ S9+ ] - [ iPhone X ]

The abbey shot is less harsh for the G7 when it comes to exposure, and the result is ok, but it’s still a regression in dynamic range compared to the V30. I don’t have to mention detail retention as the G7 just blurs out the roof tiles, while the V30 actually had one of the best results among current generation flagships.

This scene was probably the single worst for the AICam on the G7 as the resulting colours are just outright comical both in the main camera as well as the wide shot. The same AICam on the V30 resulted in a very light touch in terms of processing and did manage to make for a more subjectively pleasing sky colour.

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[ G7 ] - [ G6 ] - [ V30 ] - [ Mi MIX 2S ] - [ Pixel 2 XL ]
[ Mate 10 ] - [ P20 ] - [ P20 Pro ] - OnePlus 6  ]
[ S8 ] - [ S9+ ] - [ iPhone X ]

The alley shot for the G7 was more forgiving and overall we’re getting good colour balance and exposure. Although a lot less immediately visible, the G7 still loses out detail to the V30 due to its processing.

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[ G7 ] - [ G6 ] - [ V30 ]
[ Mi MIX 2S ] - [ Pixel 2 XL ] - [ Mate 10 ] - [ P20 ] - [ P20 Pro ]
OnePlus 6  ] - [ S8 ] - [ S9+ ] - [ iPhone X ]

The shop front scene is yet another example of how the G7 differs from the V30. Both units use the same exposure at 1/1471s, yet the V30 manages to be ever so slightly more pleasing with its HDR decisions.

Detail wise it’s another disaster for the G7 as it uses needlessly a harsh spatial noise reduction filter. Notice the carpet on the lower right as its details disappear in the G7 shot.

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[ G7 ] - [ G6 ] - [ V30 ] - [ Mi MIX 2S ] - [ Pixel 2 XL ]
[ Mate 10 ] - [ P20 ] - [ P20 Pro ] - OnePlus 6  ]
[ S8 ] - [ S9+ ] - [ iPhone X ]

The last scene can be used as an analysis on the behaviour of dynamic range retention in scenes where’s there’s a prominent colour reaching the limits of the camera’s sensor. In this case it’s the red petunia flowers in the scene. The best behaving sample from a phone is seemingly the S9+. Again the G7 regresses over the V30 as it compresses the dynamic range needlessly, and this is plainly visible when looking at a histogram of both phone’s pictures.

It’s hard to tell at first glance because of the short focal length of the shot, but again the G7’s details are again blurred out. Best example is the stem hairs on the petunias which just vanish in the G7’s pictures.

Daylight pictures conclusion

Overall in terms of daylight pictures, the G7 was a massive disappointment. When I first started sorting out the images from the phones I couldn’t understand what was wrong with the G7’s samples as I thought I inadvertently shot in a lower resolution or messed up some setting. Re-trying some shots in isolated conditions this is was indeed what the G7 produced. In the past we’ve had some phones which had hardware faults so maybe the phone wasn’t focusing correctly? Looking at sample shots of other review websites confirms that it wasn’t an issue of my unit alone.

Under daylight conditions, the G7 is a regression in every single aspect when compared to the V30. The resulting camera performance is maybe what would have been acceptable 3-4 years ago, but to showcase such poor exposure, consistency and detail in a 2018 flagship is just shameful.

The G7’s saving grace is that its wide-angle camera is still a unique feature and I do think it’s something that has a lot more uses than telephoto lenses, but again that’s something subjective and varies from user to user. The new sensor on the wide-angle helps a lot in terms of dynamic range and detail, however the sensor suffers from the same unbalanced exposures as the main camera.

All in all, what is most embarrassing for LG is that they had a really good camera in the V30 and its processing was extremely competitive, producing results competitive with the best 2018 flagships. The fact that it’s the same sensor and optics just boggles the mind as to what is going on.

Battery Life Camera - Low Light Evaluation
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  • johntmosher - Thursday, August 9, 2018 - link

    My LG G4 died from Boot Loop a little over a month after the warranty expired. Verizon and LG did not offer anything to make up for the fact that it was sold to me at a time when they already knew about the Boot Loop failure rates. LG and Verizon are both on my shit list and will stay that way for quite some time.
  • takeshi7 - Thursday, August 9, 2018 - link

    I don't care about waterproofing on my phone. LG needs to bring back removable batteries. That's the whole reason I bought their phones. If I want waterproofing I'll go out and buy a waterproof case.
  • UtilityMax - Friday, August 10, 2018 - link

    Just buy a power bank. Removable battery as a run time extender is as inconvenient as it gets. Also, some of those low-end smartphones with A53 CPUs as their main cores can get an amazing run time. I can forget to charge my honor 6X and it can still last through the day with just 40% in the morning.
  • jabber - Saturday, August 11, 2018 - link

    Yeah I have a LG G4 which has been a great phone but this September I am coming up for three years with it and was going to replace it (probably a G6). However, I remembered I could change the battery and really the G4 still does everything I need so I just got a new battery. Sorted for another year at least...
  • Dragonstongue - Thursday, August 9, 2018 - link

    so even higher specs with a low Mah battery, for shame..."modern" smartphones IMO especially the ones that have high to very high end (for phone) specs should not hamper them with "normal" size batteries that tend to be in the range of 2200-3200 they should be targeting a minimum of 3200-4200 range, especially when they have the space to cram a larger battery in there (which many of them do)

    I just don't get t when "knock off" brands manage to often use a better display AND larger battery, shame of the bigger companies expecting as much $ as they can think to get away charging and using a dinky little battery....example even lower spec G4 Play had a 2800Mah battery REMOVABLE, this is much higher spec but barely any increase in battery capacity, I do not give a crud what OS version it is using, the capacity of the battery matters very much >:(
  • Xex360 - Thursday, August 9, 2018 - link

    The notch again no innovation especially from LG, I had the V20 and the second screen can be very useful and didn't ruin the whole experience, the G6 were nearly perfect beside the decision to use a year old SOC plus no wireless charging.
  • hirschma - Thursday, August 9, 2018 - link

    The LG V35 is what should be the flagship. Better specs, better display, more memory, plus the audio, wide angle camera and 845 from the G7. I've had mine for a week, and it's definitely the best phone I've ever had.
  • Hubb1e - Thursday, August 9, 2018 - link

    I got this phone after some bad experiences with Samsung and this is the most accurate review of it I've seen to date. The biggest downside for the G7 is the unreliable camera. Some shots are okay, some are downright bad. And most reviewers don't shoot pictures of moving subjects, but the G7 consistently misses focus on moving subjects. All the issues with the camera in this review I've seen in my use. Most of it I think is related to it's inability to auto focus on the correct subject. When using manual focus, the camera actually takes good pictures.

    The rest of the phone is actually really great. I don't notice the color calibration in regular use, and the speaker is great even if other flagships also offer great speakers. The size of the phone is the best out there. It is comfortable and has a large screen without feeling too wide to hold and use in one hand. While I do mostly use BT headphones, I have a range of wired headphones and when I use them they sound amazing on the G7 in comparison to other phone's weak headphone output.

    And the last great feature, but one that was not touched on in this review, is the outstanding idle battery life of the G7. Even with the always on display enabled, the G7 barely loses any charge when idle. If I don't use my phone very much, I can end the day with 80% of my battery life left. Most days I have 40-50% of battery left over even taking pictures, making calls, watching videos, and browsing the web. In comparison to Samsung phones I've had that can lose 5% an hour at idle, the idle power use of the G7 makes it outlast every other phone I've ever used.
  • SkyBill40 - Thursday, August 9, 2018 - link

    I have a V30 after having upgraded from a V10 a while back. Personally speaking, I'd rate the V series above the G series but that's just me. I can say that I've been quite satisfied with my V30 and given how close to each other these phones happen to be, it wouldn't be worth it to "upgrade."

    LG has come a long way with their phones (that boot loop issue was a killer) and are genuinely competitive with every other high end device out there.
  • Lavkesh - Thursday, August 9, 2018 - link

    Its amazing how average these so called Android flagships are when compared to the iPhone where every details is thought out. The worst thing is that they arent cheap either.

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