Battery Life

So far we’ve seen that the Acer Swift 3 can show off the strengths of the AMD Ryzen mobile platform, but how does it fare at mobility? The Ryzen SoC, Raven Ridge, offers the same Thermal Design Power as Intel’s U series, at 15 Watts. But that’s the maximum power draw on sustained loads, and at light loads, both systems will be well under that. Plus, there’s the platform to look at as well. Acer has outfitted the Swift 3 with a 1920x1080 display, which is going to help because it’s not high DPI, but AMD is also only supporting DDR4 RAM which is going to be a larger power draw than LPDDR3.

Also, despite being a larger form factor device, the Acer Swift 3 only has a 48 Wh battery, which is fairly small by today’s standards. This is likely due to the segment they are targeting with their pricing, because they would certainly have room for more. A Surface Book 2 15-inch model offers 85 Wh of capacity, and a Dell XPS 15 can have up to 97 Wh. But both of those devices cost far more than the Acer.

To test battery life, we run the system through several tests with the display set at 200 nits. A note will have to be made here though. The AMD drivers, by default, use a VeriBright setting to reduce the screen brightness on battery. This had to be disabled because with it on the laptop can’t even get to 200 nits. Luckily, once it was disabled, there were no issues, and we didn’t run into any CABC nuttiness either.

2013 Light Battery

Battery Life 2013 - Light

On this test, the system got almost seven hours, which isn’t terrible considering the small battery capacity. It’s well off the best in this segment, but when you have half the battery compared to some of the competition, that’s likely not a surprise.

2016 Web

Battery Life 2016 - Web

Our 2016 test is a more demanding test which puts the CPU to work for longer, and more often. Here we got pretty close to the 2013 test, which is pretty easy for most systems these days, which gives a hint that the CPU efficiency is pretty decent, and other parts of the platform are more of a draw.

Normalized Results

Battery Life 2013 - Light Normalized

Battery Life 2016 - Web - Normalized

By removing the battery size from the equation, we can get a feel for how the system efficiency is. The Acer Swift 3 is definitely not in the top of the 2013 result, providing efficiency that’s normally a higher resolution device on our lightest test, but on the more demanding 2016 test, it makes a comeback with a strong result. We’ll dig into this more in a minute.

Movie Playback

Battery Life Movie Playback

At about six hours, the movie playback is good, but not great. On Intel systems, we generally see this as one of the highest results, because the decode is offloaded to fixed function hardware that is very efficient. There’s no doubt that AMD also offloads, but their average power draw is slightly higher.

Tesseract

Battery Life Tesseract

To give an idea of how useful the movie playback time is, we take the elapsed time, and divide it by the length of a long movie, which is The Avengers, and the result is what we call our Tesseract score. Even though the movie playback time isn’t as insane as other systems, at almost three full playthroughs of The Avengers, it’s probably enough for most situations.

Digging into the platform power

So in our battery testing, we came upon some interesting results. The overall efficiency isn’t as high as other Ultrabooks we’ve tested on really light workloads, but the result increases against those same devices on more demanding workloads. What this says is that the CPU is likely not the leading drain on the battery, but rather other parts of the system are more demanding, so the CPU power draw is somewhat masked by higher draw around it. It’s very much the same thing we’d see in a gaming laptop, where the overall base power draw is so high that the small extra power draw of the CPU under these somewhat light loads is just a smaller percentage of the total.

Since this is our first Raven Ridge device, it is interesting to dig into this a bit more, so some extra power draw measurements were done. But, at the same time, since this is the only Ryzen laptop we’ve tested so far, any conclusions are going to be best theories, because we can’t pull the system apart and measure power draw all over the board.

The system was tested at idle, with the display on at 200 nits, as well as off, so the display power could be calculated.

At idle, with the display on, the system averaged about 5.71 Watts at 200 nits brightness. That’s actually right around the same as a Surface Book 2, which draws 5.53 Watts at idle at 200 nits. But a huge factor in the Surface Book 2 is its 15-inch 3240x2160 display, which is a full 4.1 Watts of draw. The Acer Swift 3’s display accounts for only a measly 1.16 Watts. This is due to a couple of factors. First, it’s only 1920x1080 resolution, which is 3.38 times less pixels, so it doesn’t need as powerful of a backlight to hit the same 200 nits brightness. Second, the display isn’t even close to covering the entire sRGB spectrum on the Acer, meaning the LEDs are going to be less power hungry as well.

So that leaves us with 4.55 Watts of idle power draw when the display is off. That’s a lot for a laptop. The same Surface Book 2, by comparison, draws just 1.43 Watts at idle when the display power is off.

Without being able to dissect and test the laptop, and without other Raven Ridge laptops to compare against, it would be impossible to state definitively why the idle power draw is so high. The CPU is only reporting about 0.91 Watts draw on its own, so it’s not likely that AMD has higher idle power draw, however they do require DDR4 memory, which is going to consume more power than LPDDR3. AMD needs LPDDR4 to come to market. That’s likely a portion of the difference right there. We’ll have to test a few more systems to draw conclusions, but it also shows that the Acer helps mask this extra power draw with a very efficient display.

Charge Time

Acer supplies the Swift 3 with a 45-Watt AC Adapter, which is pretty common on these types of laptops. When the CPU and GPU combined have a TDP of just 15 Watts, this is going to be plenty to charge the laptop while working at the same time.

Acer still uses their barrel plug on the Swift 3, and they really need to move to USB-C for their charging across the board. Acer uses a very thin barrel, and it feels like it could just snap off at any time. Certainly, if the laptop was bumped while charging, it would be incredibly easy to bend or break this connector. It’s something they’ve been using for years, but at the same time, USB-C charging is a much more robust connector, and means you should be able to find a replacement either.

Battery Charge Time

So with that issue aside, the Acer Swift 3’s charge time is quite good. The smaller adapter power output is easily offset by a smaller than average battery, so the overall charge time is just under 2:20.

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  • kaidenshi - Thursday, May 3, 2018 - link

    640KB is enough for anyone.

    In all seriousness, this is a midrange laptop and 8GB is midrange these days. Unless you're trying to use it for containers/VMs, 8GB is plenty for the kind of use case a laptop like this will see.

    Now, if they included the right GPU to make it a gaming laptop, I'd love to see it come with 16GB with the option of 32GB. But in this case, 8GB is plenty.
  • Targon - Tuesday, May 8, 2018 - link

    That is the problem, a mid-range laptop is generally that $450-$650 range. Add the SSD and you go into the next price category. RAM being overpriced at this point is a part of the problem, but it isn't the only reason the cheapest you can find a Ryzen based laptop is $600 at this point.
  • kfishy - Wednesday, May 9, 2018 - link

    Unfortunately a side effect of Ryzen’s success is retailers can mark it up much more.
  • Jimster480 - Monday, May 28, 2018 - link

    There are $400 Ryzen 3 laptops, its just that if its a Ryzen 5+ then its double the cost.
  • Jimster480 - Monday, May 28, 2018 - link

    Its not when its a single channel 2133mhz ram setup...
    Its the cheapest ram, cheapest SSD, cheapest screen, cheapest battery.... all for a price more than an i7 + dedicated GPU with double the ram!
  • tn_techie - Thursday, May 3, 2018 - link

    Regarding Cinebench and system tests, it's clear that premium built notebooks like Microsoft's surface products, or even the Asus Zenbooks, will have better results than the Swift 315, as the components quality and thermal solutions are way higher than the Swift's. Most plasticky midrange notebooks with Kaby Lake R chips score lower Cinebench results than the 2700U when coupled with a random nonchalant thermal solution from the likes of Acer, Asus or any of the major OEMs. The problem with Raven Ridge, is that it can't feature on higher end designs, due to the lack of LPDDR support, and therefore it won't benefit from the advantage of being on a truly premium system, with great cooling, a big battery, full cutting edge connectivity, best-in-class NVMes etc.. It's condemned, at best, to the high midrange tier, with tradeoffs and sacrifices here and there.
  • Spunjji - Friday, May 4, 2018 - link

    I'm pretty sure it's less the LPDDR support and more mindshare / marketing dollars that keep AMD out of the high-end products.
  • tn_techie - Friday, May 4, 2018 - link

    I think that the Ryzen brand has proved itself over the last 12 months. There's a lot of excitement around it, and its reputation is actually sky high. That's why I don't think it's the old mindshare issue, with people automatically recognizing AMD based products as low-end. However, consumers associate high-end CPUs with the premium notebook offerings. And as long as you're unable to showcase your products in the XPS, Spectre, Zenbook, Surface etc.. lineups, you won't be granted the full recognition you deserve. And the lack of LPDDR support is the main hurdle here.
    Try putting a 2700U in the chassis of an XPS 13 for example. Battery life will be disappointing, but performance would be outstanding.
  • Jimster480 - Monday, May 28, 2018 - link

    The battery life of the XPS13 is very disappointing... especially since the Spectre and Meltdown bugs... I can barely get 4 hours out of my XPS13 just browsing in Firefox...
    Its basically a useless disaster of a laptop with poor performance for anything outside of web browsing.
    Intel knows it and they will pay billions to keep the ryzen chips out of something like the XPS13.
    LPDDR vs DDR4 really isn't a major factor when it comes to notebook battery life. It may sacrifice an hour or two but considering the actual tested battery life of basically every intel machine post these patches for the CPU bugs.... well I think the two would be on par with the Ryzen maybe even pulling ahead.
  • Jimster480 - Monday, May 28, 2018 - link

    Exactly! There is no disadvantage to Ryzen that keeps it out of the premium sector other than that its made by AMD and Intel is throwing marketing dollars at companies to make sure AMD doesn't see the light of day.

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