C&C Generals: Zero Hour Performance no AA/AF

The 5700 Ultra shows a bit of a performance edge over the other two NVIDIA cards we tested here, but still falls short of anything ATI. Oddly though, it looks to me like there is an issue with the different ways these cards are handling timing the frames. The ATI cards all have instantaneous maximum frame rates into the hundreds, while the 5700 Ultra only reaches 76. The 5600 and 4200 don't even make it over 60.

All of the cards have the same minimum frame rate at 15 frames per second.

C&C Generals: Zero Hour Performance 4xAA/8xAF

We see a similar trend with ATI cards coming out ahead of the NVIDIA solutions, but the 5700 Ultra does a good job of approaching the 9600 Pro in this benchmark. With the exception of the 4200 card, the min frame rates were again at 15.

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  • Anonymous User - Thursday, October 23, 2003 - link

    #7, way to go! that's some hard numbers you got there. now that's what I call objective analysis! i agree with #12 and #14 as well.

    this review IMHO has been very subjective. even if they mentioned they would follow up with image quality reviews, it may be too late because "simple minded" individuals looking only for frame rate numbers may have already been influenced in their graphics card future buying decisions.

    ..and people, listen up! if you disagree with the site reviews then don't visit them and don't recommend them to friends. that way they get less hits and vendors leave them, and they die sooner or later. if we keep on visiting their sites even with good or bad intentions, they get hit counts and people see their rotating ads. that's how web site businesses operates now and a way for them to generate income. money talks in the hardware and technology business.

    let's not keep debating or bashing each other for this. haven't you noticed they are playing us all like fools. I pity the people who will believe these reviews without really evaluating them.

    so again, vote with your wallet! i'm no fanboy and i will always evaluate and buy the best product i see out there.

    tech reviewers please be responsible! you got big in the first place because the community supports you. you owe it to them. you start without ads at first, people come and now you see "hits" coming you see an oppurtunity to generate income then you confuse us with your AD BLOATED web sites and BIASED reviews.
  • Anonymous User - Thursday, October 23, 2003 - link

    I agree with everyone about the conclusion not making much sense. And what is the price before rebate? Ya know...the money I ACTUALLY HAVE TO HAND OVER? Rebates are sometimes(not all the time) a risky business. Who is honoring these rebates? Why wasnt this mentioed? Thats rather odd.

    If there is a rebate involved im assuming that the card must be $250. If this is the case then the 9700pro is the same price. So actually....If your going to shell out $250, just get a 9700pro and forget about the stupid rebate =)

  • Anonymous User - Thursday, October 23, 2003 - link

    This is a FACT. Its not an excuse...its just a fact that im putting out.

    To be 100% unbiased is NOT human.

    So the boys at anandtech tend to lean towards Nvidia alittle more then ATI...maybe 55-45, dont get made about it though...just take what they say with a grain of salt =)
  • Anonymous User - Thursday, October 23, 2003 - link

    i tought that tom pointed ati as the cheater
  • Anonymous User - Thursday, October 23, 2003 - link

    #24 You should try taking English 101...it might help you a bit :)
  • Anonymous User - Thursday, October 23, 2003 - link

    This IQ comparison better not be like the last one. If every other site gives me full uncompressed screenshots and shows me Nvidia filtering issues, anandtech better show me too if they dont want to lose respect
  • Anonymous User - Thursday, October 23, 2003 - link

    I like AnandTech, and respect their reviews. I agree the conclusion doesn't match the test results, but the conclusion is also subjective to actually using the device reviewed.

    Besides, HardOCP is way more biased than Anand or Tom's, it's just that their bias changes based on Kyle's latest whim.
  • Anonymous User - Thursday, October 23, 2003 - link

    If the IQ testing for this card is the same as the last IQ article, no thanks. Let's hope they put more effort into actually showing the obvious differences that were passed up last time.
  • Anonymous User - Thursday, October 23, 2003 - link

    ej guys 9or better ati fans) if derek made this review besides posting the numbers he probably saw the image quality. all you knows perfectly whose the best driver writer. and it's been so seen i got my first tnt. but anyways it is obvious that some games work better on ati's card somework better on nvidia. in xbitlabs forum yesterday one guy had posted after he upgrated his GF3 to radeon 9800 pro he started experiencing quality promblems. so don't bitch about the quality it all dipends on the test suit.
    it was the same situation with the reviews of fx-51 and pentium EE. every single review gontradict to another.
    btw those of you trade better start buying nvidia'a stocks.
  • Anonymous User - Thursday, October 23, 2003 - link

    #10, The ads rotate. I just saw two different ATI ads on the same page. Keep trying!

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