Announcement Four: AVX-512 & Favored Core

To complete the set, there are a couple of other points worth discussing. First up is that AVX-512 support coming to Skylake-X. Intel has implemented AVX-512 (or at least a variant of it) in the last generation of Xeon Phi processors, Knights Landing, but this will be the first implementation in a consumer/enterprise core.

Intel hasn’t given many details on AVX-512 yet, regarding whether there is one or two units per CPU, or if it is more granular and is per core. We expect it to be enabled on day one, although I have a suspicion there may be a BIOS flag that needs enabling in order to use it.

As with AVX and AVX2, the goal here is so provide a powerful set of hardware to solve vector calculations. The silicon that does this is dense, so sustained calculations run hot: we’ve seen processors that support AVX and AVX2 offer decreased operating frequencies when these instructions come along, and AVX-512 will be no different. Intel has not clarified at what frequency the AVX-512 instructions will run at, although if each core can support AVX-512 we suspect that the reduced frequency will only effect that core.

With the support of AVX-512, Intel is calling the Core i9-7980X ‘the first TeraFLOP CPU’. I’ve asked details as to how this figure is calculated (software, or theoretical), but it does make a milestone in processor design. We are muddying the waters a bit here though: an AVX unit does vector calculations, as does a GPU. We’re talking about parallel compute processes completed by dedicated hardware – the line between general purpose CPU and anything else is getting blurred.

Favored Core

For Broadwell-E, the last generation of Intel’s HEDT platform, we were introduced to the term ‘Favored Core’, which was given the title of Turbo Boost Max 3.0. The idea here is that each piece of silicon that comes off of the production line is different (which is then binned to match to a SKU), but within a piece of silicon the cores themselves will have different frequency and voltage characteristics. The one core that is determined to be the best is called the ‘Favored Core’, and when Intel’s Windows 10 driver and software were in place, single threaded workloads were moved to this favored core to run faster.

In theory, it was good – a step above the generic Turbo Boost 2.0 and offered an extra 100-200 MHz for single threaded applications. In practice, it was flawed: motherboard manufacturers didn’t support it, or they had it disabled in the BIOS by default. Users had to install the drivers and software as well – without the combination of all of these at work, the favored core feature didn’t work at all.

Intel is changing the feature for Skylake-X, with an upgrade and for ease-of-use. The driver and software are now part of Windows updates, so users will get them automatically (if you don’t want it, you have to disable it manually). With Skylake-X, instead of one core being the favored core, there are two cores in this family. As a result, two apps can be run at the higher frequency, or one app that needs two cores can participate.

Availability

Last but not least, let's talk about availability. Intel will likely announce availability during the keynote at Computex, which is going on at the same time as this news post goes live. The launch date should be sooner rather than later for the LCC parts, although the HCC parts are unknown. But no matter what, I think it's safe to say that by the end of this summer, we should expect a showdown over the best HEDT processor around.

Announcement Three: Skylake-X's New L3 Cache Architecture
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  • Kevin G - Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - link

    $2000 isn't bad considering that the previous Broadwell-E only had 10 cores for roughly the same price. So in a generation, performance/$ will nearly double. Not a bad thing if you can use all the thread available.
  • mschira - Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - link

    Broadwell-E is a server CPU, very different thing.
  • T1beriu - Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - link

    Wow. You're clueless. :)
  • andychow - Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - link

    Broadwell-E is a high-end desktop CPU, not server class. Server processors use the Xeon branding.
  • bigboxes - Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - link

    You just lost your IT cred. Hang it up. LOL
  • theuglyman0war - Thursday, June 8, 2017 - link

    WORKSTATION
  • Makaveli - Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - link

    lol are you actually surprised?

    Not you personally but i've been seeing post which look like they are CS BRO Gamers types who think AMD and Intel are going to be release they high core cpu's for $500.....

    Just have to price sticker shock once they release the actual prices of these cpus.

    These cpu's are for Professionals and high end users and the price tags will reflect that. They already have products for gamers out stick to those they will match your wallet better.
  • nathanddrews - Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - link

    "Are they kidding? In what world do they live?"

    In a world where HEDT buyers paid $1,700 for a 10C/20T CPU. :-/
  • Cygni - Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - link

    They are likely living in the world where they beat AMD on IPC while still having a significant clockspeed advantage, I would imagine...

    I'm pulling for AMD to offer competition here, and I think they have forced Intel to react with more aggressive pricing and products than they otherwise would have, but the price of the XE is hardly a surprise. It's essentially a rebranded bigcore Xeon.
  • Visual - Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - link

    Interesting how the price differences for each extra two cores go - 210, 400, 200, 200, 300, 300. That early 400 gap in particular seems like a fairly bad deal. Is it because AMD has nothing at just over 8 cores and jumps directly to 16? Do we even know that about AMD yet?

    I wonder why Intel revealed prices before much of the other details are clear, and more importantly before info from AMD? It looks suspiciously like an attempt to hint to AMD what their prices should be in turn... like they are afraid AMD might undercut by too much if they just went with a blind bid. I wonder if AMD would accept this sort of public "pricefixing proposal"...

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