Announcement Four: AVX-512 & Favored Core

To complete the set, there are a couple of other points worth discussing. First up is that AVX-512 support coming to Skylake-X. Intel has implemented AVX-512 (or at least a variant of it) in the last generation of Xeon Phi processors, Knights Landing, but this will be the first implementation in a consumer/enterprise core.

Intel hasn’t given many details on AVX-512 yet, regarding whether there is one or two units per CPU, or if it is more granular and is per core. We expect it to be enabled on day one, although I have a suspicion there may be a BIOS flag that needs enabling in order to use it.

As with AVX and AVX2, the goal here is so provide a powerful set of hardware to solve vector calculations. The silicon that does this is dense, so sustained calculations run hot: we’ve seen processors that support AVX and AVX2 offer decreased operating frequencies when these instructions come along, and AVX-512 will be no different. Intel has not clarified at what frequency the AVX-512 instructions will run at, although if each core can support AVX-512 we suspect that the reduced frequency will only effect that core.

With the support of AVX-512, Intel is calling the Core i9-7980X ‘the first TeraFLOP CPU’. I’ve asked details as to how this figure is calculated (software, or theoretical), but it does make a milestone in processor design. We are muddying the waters a bit here though: an AVX unit does vector calculations, as does a GPU. We’re talking about parallel compute processes completed by dedicated hardware – the line between general purpose CPU and anything else is getting blurred.

Favored Core

For Broadwell-E, the last generation of Intel’s HEDT platform, we were introduced to the term ‘Favored Core’, which was given the title of Turbo Boost Max 3.0. The idea here is that each piece of silicon that comes off of the production line is different (which is then binned to match to a SKU), but within a piece of silicon the cores themselves will have different frequency and voltage characteristics. The one core that is determined to be the best is called the ‘Favored Core’, and when Intel’s Windows 10 driver and software were in place, single threaded workloads were moved to this favored core to run faster.

In theory, it was good – a step above the generic Turbo Boost 2.0 and offered an extra 100-200 MHz for single threaded applications. In practice, it was flawed: motherboard manufacturers didn’t support it, or they had it disabled in the BIOS by default. Users had to install the drivers and software as well – without the combination of all of these at work, the favored core feature didn’t work at all.

Intel is changing the feature for Skylake-X, with an upgrade and for ease-of-use. The driver and software are now part of Windows updates, so users will get them automatically (if you don’t want it, you have to disable it manually). With Skylake-X, instead of one core being the favored core, there are two cores in this family. As a result, two apps can be run at the higher frequency, or one app that needs two cores can participate.

Availability

Last but not least, let's talk about availability. Intel will likely announce availability during the keynote at Computex, which is going on at the same time as this news post goes live. The launch date should be sooner rather than later for the LCC parts, although the HCC parts are unknown. But no matter what, I think it's safe to say that by the end of this summer, we should expect a showdown over the best HEDT processor around.

Announcement Three: Skylake-X's New L3 Cache Architecture
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  • zodiacfml - Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - link

    It was all AMD. Intel would rather let AMD starved for cash than lose profit.
  • Maleorderbride - Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - link

    Kudos to AMD for forcing Intel to do something interesting for a change!

    It is a bit of a low blow to gimp the 7820X with 28 PCI-e lanes though. It should still be great performance at that price, but there are some instances where I want all five PCI-e slots occupied.
  • Morawka - Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - link

    intel can keep their dual ring designs, no thanks. They won't overclock well at all, wait and see. I'm very dissapointed in the pricing.. I though intel would offer a 8 core for $350 this time around to match ryzen, but nope.
  • NEGuy123 - Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - link

    24 Core Threadrippers in 2018 (MY PREDICTION)

    I actually feel that if AMD can get to 7nm process next year and we will easily see 24 core Threadrippers out next year. at 7nm, i feel AMD Ryzens will be 12 core each (compared to the 8).

    AMD has said they are working on 7nm and saying they will have a 48 core server. Which tells me 12 x 4 = 48 Cores.

    All this tells us that Ryzen will be 12 core dies. So, next year AMD can slap 2 of those together.

    This is my prediction for 2018

    GLAD TO SEE YOU BACK AMD!
  • Meteor2 - Saturday, June 3, 2017 - link

    AMD won't be on 7 nm until 2019, as Global Foundaries is doing it property.
  • Meteor2 - Saturday, June 3, 2017 - link

    Properly! Apple auto-correct really is bollocks.
  • jhoff80 - Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - link

    Do we know if any of the Skylake-X chips will include full HEVC / 10-bit decode/encode, or would that still remain Kaby Lake only? (I assume Kaby Lake only, but figured it was worth asking.) I might be looking to upgrade my Haswell-based media server which is struggling with software decode when transcoding.
  • extide - Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - link

    I would expect none of the X299 based CPU's to support that -- but then again they also require a video card so you would get the support from, that.
  • Timoo - Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - link

    Looks like Intel is finally slicing it's prices:
    The 7800X looks like the successor of the 6800K, just $100 less expensive...
    The sweet spot, as mentioned above, is indeed the 7820X, which looks like the successor of the 6900K, for a whopping $500 less expensive.

    That makes the i9 7900X a re-branded i7 6950X, with its price almost cut in half. Just the i9 7920X seems to be new in line. Again; with its price cut in half. Where the 6950X costs almost 2k right now, suddenly they offer 2 extra cores for 600$ less...

    Seems like AMD did do something for the market after all: Intel cuts deep in their prices ánd start spicing up their core-count. Since the Margins for AMD are approx 30-35% right now, it means Intel is lowering their margins on CPUs considerably...
  • Morawka - Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - link

    Nobody seems to notice the 7820X and every sub $1K processor in the new skylake lineups only come with 28 lanes.

    to get 44 Lanes, you gotta spend a grand or more

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