Announcement Four: AVX-512 & Favored Core

To complete the set, there are a couple of other points worth discussing. First up is that AVX-512 support coming to Skylake-X. Intel has implemented AVX-512 (or at least a variant of it) in the last generation of Xeon Phi processors, Knights Landing, but this will be the first implementation in a consumer/enterprise core.

Intel hasn’t given many details on AVX-512 yet, regarding whether there is one or two units per CPU, or if it is more granular and is per core. We expect it to be enabled on day one, although I have a suspicion there may be a BIOS flag that needs enabling in order to use it.

As with AVX and AVX2, the goal here is so provide a powerful set of hardware to solve vector calculations. The silicon that does this is dense, so sustained calculations run hot: we’ve seen processors that support AVX and AVX2 offer decreased operating frequencies when these instructions come along, and AVX-512 will be no different. Intel has not clarified at what frequency the AVX-512 instructions will run at, although if each core can support AVX-512 we suspect that the reduced frequency will only effect that core.

With the support of AVX-512, Intel is calling the Core i9-7980X ‘the first TeraFLOP CPU’. I’ve asked details as to how this figure is calculated (software, or theoretical), but it does make a milestone in processor design. We are muddying the waters a bit here though: an AVX unit does vector calculations, as does a GPU. We’re talking about parallel compute processes completed by dedicated hardware – the line between general purpose CPU and anything else is getting blurred.

Favored Core

For Broadwell-E, the last generation of Intel’s HEDT platform, we were introduced to the term ‘Favored Core’, which was given the title of Turbo Boost Max 3.0. The idea here is that each piece of silicon that comes off of the production line is different (which is then binned to match to a SKU), but within a piece of silicon the cores themselves will have different frequency and voltage characteristics. The one core that is determined to be the best is called the ‘Favored Core’, and when Intel’s Windows 10 driver and software were in place, single threaded workloads were moved to this favored core to run faster.

In theory, it was good – a step above the generic Turbo Boost 2.0 and offered an extra 100-200 MHz for single threaded applications. In practice, it was flawed: motherboard manufacturers didn’t support it, or they had it disabled in the BIOS by default. Users had to install the drivers and software as well – without the combination of all of these at work, the favored core feature didn’t work at all.

Intel is changing the feature for Skylake-X, with an upgrade and for ease-of-use. The driver and software are now part of Windows updates, so users will get them automatically (if you don’t want it, you have to disable it manually). With Skylake-X, instead of one core being the favored core, there are two cores in this family. As a result, two apps can be run at the higher frequency, or one app that needs two cores can participate.

Availability

Last but not least, let's talk about availability. Intel will likely announce availability during the keynote at Computex, which is going on at the same time as this news post goes live. The launch date should be sooner rather than later for the LCC parts, although the HCC parts are unknown. But no matter what, I think it's safe to say that by the end of this summer, we should expect a showdown over the best HEDT processor around.

Announcement Three: Skylake-X's New L3 Cache Architecture
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  • negusp - Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - link

    If you're going to be so condescending concerning @Gothmoth's use of (or lack of) capitals, at least use capitals correctly in your sentences.
  • theuglyman0war - Thursday, June 8, 2017 - link

    kind of makes one wish AMD HEDT was relevant before Intel artificially moved the cpu core increase price line that had been at $949 since Westmere? If they had been. The 18 core i9 would probably be $999 in august. Broadwell-E was going to be my upgrade. I felt betrayed. I assumed the market would react in kind. I suppose AMD was just a generation to late to save Intel from itself.
  • Notmyusualid - Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - link

    @ Gothmoth

    I paid for a 6950X, and have a 14C/28T Broadwell Xeon v4 too.

    Unless you *really* know what you are buying, i.e. you are in corporate IT already and understand the different SKUs, I'd hazard against recommending a Broadwell Xeon over a consumer part - or you'll be stuck with lower frequency operation, and there is little you can do about it. I think two-gens back the overclockers have v2 & v3 Xeons unlocked with custom bios and other madness, but not v4 (Broadwell), though I've been too busy to check back in months.

    From my inital reading, without any benchies, I think a 7920X might do for me. I'm already used to some programs not running on HCC without disabling cores. I'll take a LCC design next time.

    Just my 2c.
  • SanX - Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - link

    $2000 for 18 cores is $100 per core.
    This is approximately 20x the production cost.

    It is always good for monopoly to be a monopoly.
  • Kevin G - Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - link

    Silicon is indeed cheap. The billion dollar fabs, not so much.
  • Notmyusualid - Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - link

    +1
  • ddriver - Thursday, June 1, 2017 - link

    It actually takes less than a quarter of selling production to make up for a production line's cost. They don't make a new fab for each and every process or chip flavor. Their margins speak louder than words, they are milking consumers viciously.
  • WoodyPWX - Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - link

    Thank you AMD you forced Intel to finally do something! I'm tempted to buy an 8 core Ryzen to improve my compilation times, where I'm always CPU bound (Core i7 4790K)
  • Silma - Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - link

    The most interesting tidbit of Gregory Bryant editorial is this:

    "8th Gen Intel® Core™ Processor: We will have more to say about the 8th Gen Intel Core processor in the future but it’s exciting to share that in the latest testing, we’re seeing a performance improvement of more than 30 percent over the 7th Gen Intel® Core™ processor"

    : comparison with same TDP.

    If this proves to be true and priced without excess, the next generation of Intel Core processors will be very interesting.
  • Ian Cutress - Tuesday, May 30, 2017 - link

    It'll be interesting to see what they've done with the microarchitecture to get such a gain

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