Broadwell-E Conclusion

Intel’s latest Broadwell-E platform is the next iteration of their high-end desktop strategy, which involves bringing the low-to-mid range professional processors into the consumer market and adding a few features (such as overclocking), but removing others (ECC). For this launch, Intel introduced four processors, ranging from six cores to ten cores and varying in price from $434 to $1723.

At AnandTech we have tested Intel’s Broadwell cores before, both in our Broadwell desktop processor review of the Core i7-5775C and the professional level Broadwell-EP Xeon E5-2600 v4 processor review. We noted a 3-5% increase in clock-per-clock performance compared to the previous generation ‘Haswell’ parts at the time. This review tests all the new Broadwell-E parts for direct comparison to the Haswell parts.

Performance

The move from Haswell-E to Broadwell-E is a change from 22nm to 14nm process technology but the microarchitecture is mostly the same, barring minor adjustments. These adjustments include an improved memory controller (now qualified on DDR4-2400), a faster divider, slightly improved branch prediction, a slightly larger scheduler, and a reduction in AVX multiply latency from 5 cycles to 3 cycles.

Due to this, the performance of the new Broadwell-E parts is somewhat predictable. Adding more cores and adjusting for frequency is a good marker, as is adjusting for the new memory speed. That means a move from the i7-5960X to the i7-6950X gives two more cores at the same frequency, or about 25% more performance. The downside of this upgrade is the price: the i7-5960X was launched at $999/$1049, whereas the new i7-6950X is $1723. That’s a big price increase by any standard.

Turbo Boost Max 3.0: A Troubled Implementation

For Broadwell-E, Intel introduced a new technology called Turbo Boost Max 3.0. With an appropriate driver, BIOS, BIOS settings, and software, this allows the system to pin a single threaded program to the best performing single core at a higher-than-listed frequency. It sounds as if it has potential, but the implementation means that very few users will ever see it.

Firstly, the driver/software implementation is perhaps easily overcome when the driver gets pushed through Windows 10 updates, similar to Speed Shift on Skylake processors which is now fully active. The part where it breaks down is in the BIOS and BIOS settings requirements. Ultimately the BIOS controls which P-states are in play (when the OS selects them), but the BIOS settings can override anything the processor might want by default. Because TBM3 involves an increase in frequency, this requires a number of settings in the BIOS to be enabled. But, because each processor is different, motherboard manufacturers are most likely going to run these options at a very conservative value so none of their users have a bad experience. In the end, whether it's used is going to depend on if the motherboard manufacturers enable it in the first place. In the motherboard we tested, we were told that it was a management decision to have it disabled by default. Because most users never touch the BIOS, especially in a prosumer/professional markets, it will most likely never be used in this case.

We didn’t get time to run a full benchmark suite with TBM 3.0 enabled, and will most likely follow up to see where in our tests it can make the most difference.

Market

The pricing will be prohibitive to most. Many enthusiasts who have played in the HEDT space for a number of years are used to the $999/$1049 price point for the most expensive processor, even when the number of cores has increased. However, this time Intel has decided to increase the top chip's cost by almost 70%. This has complications as to what product is best for prosumers looking to upgrade.

For $1721, if a user wants to invest in the i7-6950X but does not want the overclocking, they can invest in either the 14-core E5-2680 v4 for $1745 giving 40% more cores at a lower power with a slight decrease in frequency, or get double the cores in a 2P system and using the E5-2640 v4 processor: a 10-core 2.4 GHz/3.4 GHz part, running at 90W, for $939. Two of these runs a $1878, which is slightly more but having double the cores available might be the more important thing here. However because these CPUs are not often found at retail, it means that users may have to approach a system builder/integrator in order to source them.

One would assume that Intel is interested in retaining the long term HEDT hold-outs still on Nehalem, Westmere and Sandy Bridge-E processors. These prices (and the overclocking performance) might make these users feel that they should hold on another generation, or invest in Haswell-E. That being said, the low-end Broadwell-E pricing is higher than that of the low-end Haswell-E, which will extend the pricing gap between the mainstream and the high-end desktop platform.

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  • piroroadkill - Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - link

    Shitty pricing, lame increases in performance.
    I really hope Zen lights a fire under their ass.
  • aggrokalle - Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - link

    Hi Ian, is the Intel Thermal Solution TS13A compatible with the thinner package of the Broadwell-E? I didn't find any informations on the intel website. Don't wonna break my shiny new toy :p
  • Godofmosquitos - Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - link

    Honestly - as the article itself mentions, the EE-line of CPU's have just fallen too far behind to be considered serious options for enthusiasts. At least imo. I still have a 980X clocked at 4GHz. And it runs everything with stellar performance. That was the last time Intel had an EE-CPU which was ahead of the curve. Also, as PCI-E 4.0 will seemingly require a new platform, due to lacking backwards compatibility of PCI-E 4.0 cards with 3.0 slots, I seriously cannot see anything justifying an upgrade before '18, when PCI-E 4.0 is out, we're on 10nm, and Intel Optane disks are readily available.
  • Godofmosquitos - Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - link

    Or well, for "the average" enthusiast at least ^^
  • Impulses - Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - link

    What I really don't get is why the 6800K is still saddled with a lower lane count... Aren't the price hikes and the lag to market enough of an HEDT differentiator? Is the lower lane count something that helps yields?

    They've gone backwards, from having an attractively priced 5820K that could lure some Z170/6700K buyers to basically making HEDT as irrelevant as possible unless you absolutely need the extra cores.

    A lot of enthusiasts that don't NEED 6+ cores but COULD benefit from it (photo/video work in the side etc) would be all over a more attractive and less ignored HEDT lineup.
  • rhysiam - Wednesday, June 1, 2016 - link

    I totally agree. I'm due for an upgrade and put myself exactly in that category of photo + video work on the side and being "lured" towards a 5820K. But the price hikes, lag to market and practically 0 performance seems to have pushed the "HEDT" line from enthusiast to niche. Reading this review I don't want anything to do with it.

    We've waited almost 2 years since the Haswell-E launch and the "update" offers significantly worse price/performance ratios.

    Especially with Skylake having plenty of PCIe lanes, with the right motherboard you're covered for 2 graphics cards (or 1 plus a RAID controller), several PCIe SSDs and a 10GBps NIC... plenty for the foreseeable future. Intel is making the cost of these 6+ core CPUs (both in terms of $$s and in the sacrifice you have to make in single threaded performance) larger and larger.

    My worry is that pushing up HEDT prices will allow them to bump up the prices of high end mainstream CPUs. Let's see how much the overclockable Kaby Lake i7 costs shall we? I sure hope Zen can shake things up.
  • adamod - Wednesday, June 1, 2016 - link

    market segmentation....no other reason
  • mapesdhs - Thursday, June 9, 2016 - link

    Doubly backwards given the 4820K was a 40-lane chip, whereas the 5820K isn't. It means a 4820K/X79 can do things for gaming with SLI/CF (and still have lanes for storage and other stuff) which a 5820K and 6800K can't.
  • rodmunch69 - Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - link

    I had a 980x and then upgraded to a 3930k... 4 years ago. The 2 extra cores were great and useful, but otherwise there wasn't a big difference between the chips. Reading this it doesn't seem like the base 6800k is really much of an upgrade over a 3930k. I've been wanting to upgrade if there was a reason to do so, but Intel again isn't giving me one. One thing however with the 980x is the motherboards and the related chipsets, that's where you'd see a big difference going with something like a 6800k and it would be the reason I'd move off a 980x, but only if I was looking for a reason to move.
  • rodmunch69 - Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - link

    I've had a 3930k for 4 years now and I still don't feel much of a need to upgrade. What is going on with Intel? They seriously need a competitor to kick them in the rear and push them ahead.

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