Broadwell-E Conclusion

Intel’s latest Broadwell-E platform is the next iteration of their high-end desktop strategy, which involves bringing the low-to-mid range professional processors into the consumer market and adding a few features (such as overclocking), but removing others (ECC). For this launch, Intel introduced four processors, ranging from six cores to ten cores and varying in price from $434 to $1723.

At AnandTech we have tested Intel’s Broadwell cores before, both in our Broadwell desktop processor review of the Core i7-5775C and the professional level Broadwell-EP Xeon E5-2600 v4 processor review. We noted a 3-5% increase in clock-per-clock performance compared to the previous generation ‘Haswell’ parts at the time. This review tests all the new Broadwell-E parts for direct comparison to the Haswell parts.

Performance

The move from Haswell-E to Broadwell-E is a change from 22nm to 14nm process technology but the microarchitecture is mostly the same, barring minor adjustments. These adjustments include an improved memory controller (now qualified on DDR4-2400), a faster divider, slightly improved branch prediction, a slightly larger scheduler, and a reduction in AVX multiply latency from 5 cycles to 3 cycles.

Due to this, the performance of the new Broadwell-E parts is somewhat predictable. Adding more cores and adjusting for frequency is a good marker, as is adjusting for the new memory speed. That means a move from the i7-5960X to the i7-6950X gives two more cores at the same frequency, or about 25% more performance. The downside of this upgrade is the price: the i7-5960X was launched at $999/$1049, whereas the new i7-6950X is $1723. That’s a big price increase by any standard.

Turbo Boost Max 3.0: A Troubled Implementation

For Broadwell-E, Intel introduced a new technology called Turbo Boost Max 3.0. With an appropriate driver, BIOS, BIOS settings, and software, this allows the system to pin a single threaded program to the best performing single core at a higher-than-listed frequency. It sounds as if it has potential, but the implementation means that very few users will ever see it.

Firstly, the driver/software implementation is perhaps easily overcome when the driver gets pushed through Windows 10 updates, similar to Speed Shift on Skylake processors which is now fully active. The part where it breaks down is in the BIOS and BIOS settings requirements. Ultimately the BIOS controls which P-states are in play (when the OS selects them), but the BIOS settings can override anything the processor might want by default. Because TBM3 involves an increase in frequency, this requires a number of settings in the BIOS to be enabled. But, because each processor is different, motherboard manufacturers are most likely going to run these options at a very conservative value so none of their users have a bad experience. In the end, whether it's used is going to depend on if the motherboard manufacturers enable it in the first place. In the motherboard we tested, we were told that it was a management decision to have it disabled by default. Because most users never touch the BIOS, especially in a prosumer/professional markets, it will most likely never be used in this case.

We didn’t get time to run a full benchmark suite with TBM 3.0 enabled, and will most likely follow up to see where in our tests it can make the most difference.

Market

The pricing will be prohibitive to most. Many enthusiasts who have played in the HEDT space for a number of years are used to the $999/$1049 price point for the most expensive processor, even when the number of cores has increased. However, this time Intel has decided to increase the top chip's cost by almost 70%. This has complications as to what product is best for prosumers looking to upgrade.

For $1721, if a user wants to invest in the i7-6950X but does not want the overclocking, they can invest in either the 14-core E5-2680 v4 for $1745 giving 40% more cores at a lower power with a slight decrease in frequency, or get double the cores in a 2P system and using the E5-2640 v4 processor: a 10-core 2.4 GHz/3.4 GHz part, running at 90W, for $939. Two of these runs a $1878, which is slightly more but having double the cores available might be the more important thing here. However because these CPUs are not often found at retail, it means that users may have to approach a system builder/integrator in order to source them.

One would assume that Intel is interested in retaining the long term HEDT hold-outs still on Nehalem, Westmere and Sandy Bridge-E processors. These prices (and the overclocking performance) might make these users feel that they should hold on another generation, or invest in Haswell-E. That being said, the low-end Broadwell-E pricing is higher than that of the low-end Haswell-E, which will extend the pricing gap between the mainstream and the high-end desktop platform.

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  • RussianSensation - Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - link

    It's a slap in the face when 6850/6900/6950X are also crap overclockers and will get owned hard in games and every day tasks by a $310 6700K. The only CPU that even remotely makes sense is the 6800K. For workstation use case, dual Xeons will smash the 6950X. Heck, it's better to build a 6900K + 6700K in the same case allowing one to be productive and game at the same time. Phanteks makes such cases now. 6950X is just a way to show your status, nothing more.
  • mapesdhs - Thursday, June 9, 2016 - link

    Something usually missing from reviews now is an oc'd 4820K, which is annoying because a 4c IB-E on X79 allows for quite a lot of oc headroom given the high rating of the socket and the beefy power delivery available on boards like the R4E, etc. I bet it would give many of the newer CPUs a serious pelting.
  • Drazick - Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - link

    Could we have Extreme Edition with Iris Pro + 128MB eDRAM?

    That would be a great addition (Even only for the 6 Cores Part).
  • Eden-K121D - Wednesday, June 1, 2016 - link

    Iris pro would be useless but i agree with the eDRAM acting as L4 Cache
  • barleyguy - Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - link

    Great review.

    One possible omission though: You mentioned that the Xeon E-2640 is a better deal as far as price/performance, but there are no Xeons on the benchmark charts. Do you plan to review the E-2640 at some time in the future?

    Thanks.
  • ShieTar - Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - link

    That might indeed be a statement which needs to be proven by tests?
    The 2640 has 10 Broadwell-Cores at a 2.8GHz All-Cores-Turbo, the 6950X should have a 10-core-Turbo of 3.2GHz, so you might argue you get 87.5% of the Performance for ~60% of the CPU cost. But the 2640 does have a slower verified memory speed, which may have a little impact. And its turbo boost settings are defined to hit a 90W TDP, and I don't think you can change that even in a workstation with plenty of cooling available. Add to that the fact that you can overclock to improve the performance of the 6950X, and that the 700$ price difference should be considered relative to the overall system cost, and you probably end up with very similar price-to-performance ratios.

    I think the stronger challenger to the 6950X price-to-performance figures is the 2687W v4, which can be had for just over 2k$, and gets you annother 2 cores at almost the same clocks. That's ~16% more performance for ~16% more CPU cost, which translates into less than 10% higher system cost.
  • samer1970 - Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - link

    Hello ,

    we all know that games dont use more than 8 threads today ...

    so to take advantage of an 8 cores or 10 cores CPU in Gaming you should Disable HT (Hyperthreading) and run the gaming test again to compare it against the 4 cores i7 6700K .

    and test it with SLI as well to reach the i7 6700k bottleneck !

    let me put it more simple ,

    The i7 6700K has 4 cores and can oc to 4.4 ghz easy . this CPU will give us 8 Virtual cores comparable to 2.2 GHZ clock for each virtual core .

    However the 8 Coresi7 6900K , With the HT Turned OFF , will give us 8 cores @ 4.4 ghz EACH !

    Thats double the speed of the 4 cores i7 ! if the game uses 8 threads .

    EVEN if we dont OC the 8 cores , it would be 3.2GHZ VS 2.2 GHZ !!!

    if you ask why Disable HT ? simple because the game will never use 16 Virtual cores !!! and the advantage is LOST .

    Please run the test again for games with HT turned off .

    and to stress the CPU more , TEST SLI as well , we want the i7 6700K to bottleneck !

    THANKS

    oh and Intel Should release i5 Broadwel-E CPU , 8 cores without HT , CHEAPER and BETTER for GAMERS
  • RussianSensation - Tuesday, May 31, 2016 - link

    Nice try but no cigar. 6700K @ 4.8ghz + HT is the optimal gaming CPU. No current game even scales linearly across 6 cores + HT. 8-10 core CPU with a slower architecture would lose badly to an i7 6700K @ 4.8Ghz + DDR4 4000.

    There is not a chance 6950X @ 4.4Ghz can keep up with 6700K OC.
    http://www.techspot.com/article/1171-ddr4-4000-mhz...

    By the time games use 8-10 cores, we'll be on PS5/XB2 generation in 2020-2021 and Icelake-E. Broadwell-E 8-10 cores will be outdated.
  • adamod - Wednesday, June 1, 2016 - link

    http://www.pcworld.com/article/3039552/hardware/te...
    look at the ashes bench
  • mapesdhs - Thursday, June 9, 2016 - link

    Oh grud not here aswell! You've been banging on about this HT thing on toms for ages.

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