HP ZR2740w - High Resolution IPS that Doesn't Break the Bankby Chris Heinonen on March 16, 2012 1:15 AM EST
Color Uniformity and Color Gamut
The calibrated results on the ZR2740w were pretty good, but with such a large panel was the uniformity going to suffer because of it? 23” 1080p displays have a hard time with uniformity and are easier to fix, but perhaps since the HP is a higher end display more work has been put into keeping the screen uniform all around. Measuring nine points around the screen at the 200 nits calibrated setting, you can see what we found.
Only one of the nine locations had an average dE above 3, and the median value there was still below 2.75. What concerned me the most is that the uniformity on the grayscale was so bad, so when you have a solid white background, which is likely on a monitor like this with spreadsheets and other applications, you will be able to clearly see a shift in the white point as you look at it. Colors were far more consistent than white was across the display, so it seems to be a shift when the panel is fully driven, probably due to unevenness in the lighting I would assume.
While it has an 8-bit panel and can do 10-bit colors with A-FRC, the backlight system of the HP means that you aren’t going to get the full AdobeRGB colorspace on it. The HP comes out of Gamutvision with 76.82% of the AdobeRGB space, pretty much dead on to the 77.2% in the specs.
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Snowshredder102 - Friday, March 16, 2012 - linkThese monitors have been floating around the $700 price range for some time now. Not a fan of a 16:9 monitor for that price, this monitor also has terrible response time for anyone that plays any games. I don't see anything really special about this.
JarredWalton - Friday, March 16, 2012 - linkPlease define "terrible", because in my experience less than a frame of lag is nothing. I have an older S-PVA (Dell 2408WFP) with about three frames of lag. My personal threshold is around 20ms before it starts getting bad, relative to an S-IPS 30" display. Based on Chris' measurements I would guess I could get away with ~35ms delay relative to a CRT.
As for your comment in regards to price, you're smoking something:
$600 27" LCDs have been around for a long time, but they were all 1920x1080 or maybe 1920x1200. If you can provide links to any other 2560x1440 27" displays with IPS panels that cost less than $700, let's see them. I can't recall ever seeing anything like that for this price, outside of the HP ZR2740w.
Snowshredder102 - Friday, March 16, 2012 - linkI've heard people claim that an input lag above 10 starts getting bad. As for the price you're looking at FULL retail. I've seen these monitors for sale on a number of places. My U3011 has an MSRP of $1500, I bought it for $1150 on sale and during that time the u2711 was at $750. I've seen brand new HP 2560x1440 IPS monitors for $650. Sales come by decently often, you just have to put some effort in scoping out deals.
JarredWalton - Friday, March 16, 2012 - linkA periodic sale is one thing, a normal price is another. The ZR2740w might go on periodic sales for under $550 given the current MSRP. It's good to see the base price well under $1000 for one of these displays for a change.
esse09 - Friday, March 16, 2012 - linkHello Jarred,
the U2711 retails for the same price as the ZR2740w.
Based on your own reviews i'd say you should suggest picking the Dell monitor instead of this one as far as bang for the buck is concerned. What do you think?
JarredWalton - Friday, March 16, 2012 - linkIt depends what you're after, really. The U2711 currently goes for more like $830+ based on what I can find:
That's a full $200 more than what we can find the ZR2740w selling for, and it's not all sunshine and roses for the U2711. It has excellent colors, more connectivity options... and more input lag/processing lag. Tom's Hardware measured lag at 98ms (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ultrasharp-u27... but I measured it at just 16-18ms (http://www.anandtech.com/show/2922/4). I'm not sure which is "right", so I'll leave that to you.
If you don't need the extra inputs or high color gamut, and you'd prefer to save $200, I'd take the HP. If you can get the Dell on sale for $630, however, I'd probably go that route.
Mitch89 - Sunday, March 18, 2012 - linkI'm a big fan of the U2711, I've used two of them on a video editing suite I built and they are gorgeous. They are AU$899 here in Australia, and despite the fact they cost more here than the US (despite our dollar being higher...) they are easily worth the money.
Ramiliez - Friday, March 16, 2012 - linkMagical number for 60Hz panels is 16,7 ms
Common monitor refresh rate is 60Hz that means every 16,7 ms image is refreshed therefore response time (crystal color change + input lag) below 16,7 ms is useless
For 120Hz panels the magic number is 8,3 ms
mathew7 - Friday, March 16, 2012 - linkPlease don't confuse refresh rate and input lag.
Input lag means the time for a pixel on the wire to be shown on screen. If a monitor waits for a whole image before refreshing it's panel, then yes, you will have 16ms input lag. But this will be for the top-left pixel. The bottom-right will be less, as the panel refresh nowadays is much faster than accepted refresh rate.
And 0 input+processing lag is desireable for any fast-paced action. It's not useless, it's ideal. And don't forget also the rendering time.
PS: your comparison is like saying that if your car's top speed is 100mph, then there is not reason for you to drive more than 100 miles.
imaheadcase - Friday, March 16, 2012 - linkInput lag is only as bad as the person who uses the monitor notices.
I have a U2410 24inch and don't notice a difference in gaming with it vs a 120hz monitor.