Vendor Cards: EVGA e-GeForce 7800 GTX
by Derek Wilson & Josh Venning on July 16, 2005 12:05 AM EST- Posted in
- GPUs
Final Words
So, the bottom line is this: how does the EVGA e-GeForce 7800 GTX measure up and is it worth getting and/or overclocking? Since this is only the first in a series of articles, we can only compare it to the reference card for now. After looking at the data, it's undeniable that the EVGA e-GeForce 7800 GTX holds an edge even without overclocking it. Battlefield 2 addicts will be pleased with how well the game runs on this card, and will be even happier with the results of overclocking it.The 7800 GTX is the best card out right now, and if you can afford it, you will not be disappointed by its performance. Due to its price, the 7800 GTX will likely be a lower volume part, and some of the less expensive cards out now can run the latest games just fine. But these articles are about raw power and performance.
We don't expect any of these 7800 GTX parts to disappoint, but our goal is to make sure that our readers are getting value for every last penny they drop on this pricey power horse of a graphics card. At this point, with NVIDIA's MSRP being $599 for 430MHz parts, it doesn't make sense to pass up the EVGA e-GeForce 7800 GTX for the exact same price. We are seeing some 430MHz parts out there at $575 or lower in our RealTime pricing engine, so keep a look out for good deals.
With EVGA offering a version of the card that we tested alongside Battlefield 2, those in the market for a card and the game will be able to save a bit of cash. Good bundles are hard to come by, but it is refreshing to see EVGA offering consumers a choice in the marketplace.
Speaking of choice, we've also been given a sneak peak into a future version of the 7800 that EVGA is planning on bringing out. We aren't sure of the final specs, but the HSF is completely reworked and we are looking forward to getting our hands on this one.
Be on the look-out for more reviews in the series soon, and if there are any games, settings, or tests that you'd like to see, please send us a comment or email. We will do our best to make this series the most useful resource on 7800 GTX cards.
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Fluppeteer - Friday, July 22, 2005 - link
Isn't that an old ATi card?I don't know about a 7800Ultra, but it looks like the Quadro 4500 (based on the 7800) might be on for a SIGGRAPH launch. Since the 4400's a 512MB card, I doubt the 4500 will be a 256MB one. And hopefully *that* will bode well for a 512MB consumer card.
Fingers crossed.
Mind you, if a 4500 is a 7800GTX-based card (as the 3400 is a 6800GTo card), perhaps there'll be a 5500 (7800Ultra-based) in the manner of the 4400. By which point, presumably people will have stopped selling GeForce 5500 cards, or it's going to get confusing (other than a factor of a hundred in the price).
araczynski - Thursday, July 21, 2005 - link
i think i'll wait for the 8800xyzFluppeteer - Wednesday, July 20, 2005 - link
I understand the eVGA 7800GTX card (unusually) has a dual-link DVI connection. Since this was a feature which seemed to cause a lot of confusion among 6800-series card manufacturers, I just wondered if the reviewers (or anyone else) had the chance to test it? If it *is* dual link is an external TMDS transmitter used? What's the quality of nVidia's TMDS transmitter implementation this time round (reports of the 6800 series were critical)?The 7800GTX is probably the best card out there for trying to render at the resolutions supported by an IBM T221 or Apple's 30" cinema display - although I'm inclined to wait for a 512Mb version for my T221; it would be good to know whether it's capable of driving one.
Cheers
smn198 - Tuesday, July 19, 2005 - link
A suggestion:Regarding measuring the card's noise output and the way you measured the sound
"We had to do this because we were unable to turn on the graphics card's fan without turning on the system."
Would it be possible to try and measure the voltages going to the fan when the card is idle and under full load? Then supply the fan with these voltages when the system is off using a different power supply such as a battery (which is silent) and a variable resister.
It would also be interesting to see a graph of how the noise increases when going from idle to full load over 10 minutes (or however long it takes to reach the maximum speed) on cards which have . Instead of trying to measure the noise with the system on, again measure the voltage over time and then using your battery, variable resistor and voltage meter recreate the voltages and use this in conjunction with the voltage/time data to produce noise/time data.
Thanks
PrinceGaz - Sunday, July 17, 2005 - link
Just look at the original review to see how the 7800GTX compares with older cards, they looked at a lot more games and with a wider range of settings.This series of articles is a comparison of 7800GTX cards and is meant to focus on the differences between them. We all know a 7800GTX is faster than a 6800U Ultra so there is no point including that on the graphs.
Zak - Sunday, July 17, 2005 - link
I agree, without any comparison to older cards this is pretty useless. Z.PrinceGaz - Sunday, July 17, 2005 - link
Any word from Derek or Josh(?) as to why AA was not enabled in the tests? It would certainly be a lot more meaningful than the curent set of results at resolutions as high as 2048x1536 without AA where the lowest average framerate in any game is over 70fps. The argument about 4fps more being worthwhile because it is an extra 240 frames per minute is one of the daftest things I've read in a gfx card review.Unless you include minimum framerates and ideally a framerate graph like [H} do, and comment on playability at different resolutions and AA settings; remarks like an overclocked card getting 76fps being wothwhile over the non-overclocked one only managing 72fps are ludicrous. I bet you couldn't even tell the two apart in a test where you weren't told which was which. Turn on 4x AA and lets see how they stand up. It may come down more to memory-bandwidth but thats okay. I'm sure some manufacturer will use Samsung's 1.4nS (1400MHz) chips, or at least their 1.5nS (1333MHz) chips sooner or later, assuming the core and circuit board are up to handling those speeds.
stephenbrooks - Sunday, July 17, 2005 - link
On page 5 (Heat, Power and Noise) it says under the first graph:-----
As you can see in the graph, there's no difference in the temperature of the reference card and the EVGA e-GeForce 7800 GTX in normal mode, and it only went up by one degree when we overclocked it.
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...that's not quite right, as in fact both the e-GeForces were at 81C (overclocked or not) whereas teh reference card was at 80C.
overclockingoodness - Sunday, July 17, 2005 - link
#9 and #17: If you want to see the numbers, maybe you should go read the original 7800GTX review. These are just vendor series and you they are comparing the vendor's performance, which is always going to be a couple of frames here and there. It's useless to include 6800 and ATI cards in there.z0mb1e - Sunday, July 17, 2005 - link
I agree with #9, it would be nice if it had some numbers from the 6800 and an ATI card