Gaming Performance

For the gaming tests, mine are a little different to Brett’s, namely because we have access to different systems. For this review, I was able to compare data with the HP Envy (2500U), the ASUS Zephyrus G14 (4900HS), the Razer Blade 15 2019 (i7-9750H), as well as a variety of desktop APUs even though those power budgets are a lot higher. For the testing, I’ve gone for four different games.

 

Counter Strike Source

CSS was always a favorite growing up, and while users might be running on CS:Go these days, Source still has a great benchmarking engine. For this test we run a 75 second timedemo round against 20 bots on de_dust2, with the system processing the frames as fast as possible, at 1080p maximum settings. The output is in Frames Per Second.

Counter Strike Source TimeDemo

The 3500U here sits just above the 2500U, but it can’t match any of the desktop processors. It handily beats the Intel integrated graphics options, and isn’t that far off of the MX150 discrete graphics found in some 2019 notebooks.

 

Borderlands 3

With BL3 eventually getting to Steam this year, despite the 68 GB download, it actually runs a nice benchmark mode that can tax a system. One of the good things about Borderlands 3 is that the graphics engine can be scaled from very poor graphics all the way up to taxing the most powerful systems. It can also require a balanced CPU and GPU combo to get the right result.

For this test we run the game in DirectX 11 mode at 1080p with Medium settings.

Borderlands 3 In-Game Benchmark DX11

So while the 3500U here beats the Intel integrated graphics, it loses out to the 2500U in the HP Envy. This is mostly down to the power budget – the HP Envy is a 15-inch device with a larger thermal window, while the 3500U is in a 14-inch device and as we’ve seen it works in the Magicbook in a cTDP down mode. At this frame rate however, we would need to go down to 720p to get something even remotely playable.

 

Final Fantasy XV

The standalone FF15 benchmark, when not run on extreme settings, is a lengthy test of a graphics setup for a good open world experience. It deals with extensive long range scenary, grass, leaves, mountains, but then also has an in-game fight scene with lots of particle effects and everything going on. It’s a great test that can also tax high-end systems.

For this test, we run at 1080p Standard settings. This is often slightly too much for integrated graphics.

Final Fantasy XV Standalone Test

Similar to the Borderlands 3 setup, due to the reduced power budget of the 3500U in the Magicbook, we actually equal to a 2500U system. Intel’s integrated graphics still can’t touch it however.

 

Civilization VI

A popular strategy game, Civilization VI has a lot of settings to improve the visuals, however none of it is actually needed to enjoy the game. That being said, about a week into my testing with this benchmark I found an issue with the settings we had chosen, so instead I decided to re-run our tests at a more integrated graphics friendly setup. Here we run the benchmark mode at 1080p minimum settings, reporting the average frame rate.

Civilization 6 Graphics Test, DX11

There’s a lot of interesting data around the 65 FPS mark, which shows that 1080p is possible on a wide range of APUs. However the 3500U isn’t one of them – but the 44 FPS result is still perfectly playable. This one definitely beats the 2500U, and both of the Intel arrangements.

For this test, we also run the AI turn-time test at 1080p Minimum settings.

Civilization 6 AI Test

The higher frequency desktop APUs have a lead here, but the 15W 3500U does still beat the Core i7-9750H with its integrated graphics despite that processor being a 45W part.

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  • Flunk - Friday, May 15, 2020 - link

    If Huawei is blocked from buying US parts, how does this exist? AMD, Microsoft, etc are US companies. Reply
  • porcupineLTD - Friday, May 15, 2020 - link

    The ban is selectively enforced by granting licences to US companies that Huawei can live without or that would suffer to much from losing Huawei business. Such companies include Microsoft, Micron, AMD and Qualcomm probably (the latest Huawei phones still have some qualcom ICs in them). Google would probably be on this list too (they applied for a license) but the purpose of the ban was to cripple Huawei and that google banning is the strongest method for that. Reply
  • close - Friday, May 15, 2020 - link

    Because the ban is aimed at keeping Huawei as a paying customer to US companies as long as this doesn't allow them to become a competitive threat. Reply
  • porcupineLTD - Friday, May 15, 2020 - link

    Exactly, got to love that free market. Reply
  • sharath.naik - Friday, May 15, 2020 - link

    There is no concept of free market 8n China, free market require protecting intellectual property. China is all about ripping off existing products, industrial secret theft, all sponsored and encouraged by the communist party. Reply
  • futfut - Friday, May 15, 2020 - link

    You just contradicted your self, a free market needs protecting by IP laws? The Chinese and US do it differently, the Chinese method does a better job of promoting free markets. The US method of IP law. enforcement restricts free markets and needs a large government to police, adding friction and enforcing uncompetitive behaviour. Reply
  • LiKenun - Saturday, May 16, 2020 - link

    Prime example: patent trolls or non-practicing entities. There is a fine balance which the US seems to not have struck. Reply
  • Cellar Door - Sunday, May 17, 2020 - link

    Seems you are not familiar with what patents are. Just like the Chinease free market. Reply
  • FireSnake - Saturday, May 16, 2020 - link

    Get your facts straight!
    China is producing more patents then US!
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-china-paten...

    This contradicts your statement.
    Reply
  • ibnmadhi - Saturday, May 16, 2020 - link

    50 cent army going strong. lol Reply

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