Xbox on the PC

Gaming on Windows has been one of its biggest strengths, and technologies like DirectX have solidified Windows as the platform for PC gaming. Microsoft has also had good brand with the Xbox, but overall the experiences have been kept separate on the two platforms. Instead Microsoft has taken some half-hearted attempts to introduce their own gaming brand on the PC with things like Games for Windows Live. None have succeeded.

Will the new Xbox app change this? Maybe. It ties into their already strong gaming brand, and offers some great functionality out of the box as well.

Rather than reinvent the wheel, the Xbox app on Windows 10 offers access to the Xbox services, such as your avatar, chat, activities, and more. People who have not ever used an Xbox before will be prompted to create a gamertag, which is your name across all of the Xbox ecosystem. In a world where many services want you to use your real name for everything, it’s refreshing that you can still be anonymous in the world of Xbox.

Xbox also ties into the Windows Store, giving you a single place to access all of your Windows games. You can also add other games into the My Games section, and doing this brings up a list of almost all of the executable files on your system. Find the one you want, select it, and add. Then you can launch the game right from the Xbox app. There’s a couple of pretty big oversights here though. None of your installed Steam games appear in the Xbox app. There is no way to browse the file system when adding games either. It’s a bit surprising this is not here now, but you can, for instance, add Steam itself if you want, and then go to your library. Hopefully this will be added in the future. This does not appear to be an issue for Origin though, since on my desktop it discovered Dragon Age Inquisition automatically.

It’s all well and good to add these features to the desktop, since you can now check achievements and chat with your gamer friends even when you’re not at the Xbox. This was of course also possible in the Xbox Smartglass app on Windows 8.1, so much if this is more evolution than revolution.

What is new are two new features that are in their infancy, but already show a lot of promise.

Game DVR

The first is Game DVR. For those that have used an Xbox One, this is a feature that they will already be familiar with, but now it is on the PC. This lets you do game recordings which is a handy thing to have built into the OS. Just like the Xbox, you can set it to be always recording too, with options to keep the last fifteen seconds to ten minutes of gameplay in a buffer, allowing you to go back and get a clip if you do something truly wonderful that you want to save.

The Game DVR also works on pretty much any app, and is not restricted to games. When you bring up the Game Bar in an app other than a known game, it will just ask if this is a game. Say yes, and you can record away. It doesn’t work in all apps, but things like the Edge browser can be recorded if you want to do a tutorial. Skype, as an example, just gives a message saying that this app cannot be recorded.

The Game Bar, which can be opened with Win + G

Unfortunately you also can’t record fullscreen games. This is a pretty big limitation, and the only way to get around this is to set the game to a windowed mode. If you want to record a fullscreen game, you’ll have to leverage something like NVIDIA’s Shadowplay functionality instead. I’m going to try and get clarification on why this is the case, but it could be as simple as Microsoft has full access to the WDM and this was an easier solution for them.

Game DVR also leverages hardware encoding for the recording feature, so it will not be available to all customers. A Microsoft spokesperson let us know the following:

Game bar is available on all Windows 10 PCs. To record game clips, your hardware must support hardware based H.264 encoding and you need one of these video cards:

  • AMD: AMD Radeon™ HD 7000 series, HD 7000M series, HD 8000 series, HD 8000M series, R9 series and R7 series. AMD A-series APUs based on the Graphics Core Next architecture.
  • NVIDIA: GeForce 600 series or later, GeForce 800M series or later, Quadro Kxxx series or later.
  • Intel: Intel HD graphics 4000 or later, Intel Iris Graphics 5100 or later.

Game DVR leverages Intel’s QuickSync, AMD’s VICE, or NVIDIA’s NVENC depending on the hardware in your system. The support is fairly broad, but there will certainly be systems out there without the required hardware.

Xbox One Game Streaming

The other great feature coming to the Xbox app is the ability to stream games from an Xbox One to the PC. Now, many PC gamers will scoff at this, because the Xbox One has hardware far less capable than a modern gaming PC. This is true of course, but the Xbox One has far more GPU available than the majority of computers sold today.

Gaming PCs have been selling well lately, but they are still the minority market in the PC space. Being able to stream Xbox games to your computer will allow you to play them anywhere as long as you are on the same LAN as the Xbox itself. All you have to do is plug an Xbox One controller into the device and you have yourself a portable gaming machine which can be something as low powered as a tablet, yet you can play games like Forza 5. The Xbox is generally hooked to the main TV in a household, and it may not always be available too. There are plenty of use cases for streaming this direction.

You can set the quality levels to a couple of levels depending on your network connection. Right now, there are Low, Medium, High, and just available as of this week is Very High, which offers 1080p 60fps streaming. I’ve found that on High the network requirements are pretty low – on the order of 5 to 7 Mbps – but the latency is excellent and the overall quality is quite good. Very High will help somewhat with the graphics which is not going to look quite as good as the Xbox directly connected to a television due to the encoding. Very High bumps the quality up again, and it is still not quite as good as directly connected but it is very close especially on the smaller display of a typical PC versus a large television. Bandwidth on Very High when I was streaming Forza Motorsport 5 was around the 12-15 Mbps mark at maximum, which should be achievable on most wireless networks if the congestion is not too high. You can also easily switch the stream quality using a button in the top right corner while streaming, so if you are starting to get drop outs you can just lower the quality a bit and see if it improves. I had no issues at all but my Xbox One is wired to Gigabit and there are not a lot of other wireless networks around my home.

As for decoding, the Xbox game streaming is done over H.264, so any device which can decode H.264 (which is pretty much everything now) is going to have no issues being a receiver for this. I’ve not been able to find a device which doesn’t support this.

You can also remotely turn on the Xbox if it is sleeping (not powered right off) although I’ve not had much luck with this on my limited testing.

For those that want to stream from the PC to the Xbox, Microsoft has not ruled this out and are working on adding keyboard and mouse support to the Xbox One, which would be required for PC gaming. This could open up the possibility of even better graphics on the TV, but we’ll have to see how the streaming impacts this when (and if) this does make it to the system.

My only real issue with game streaming is that it completely takes over the Xbox One. Microsoft debuted the Xbox one with a lot of media functionality (some would say too much media, and not enough gaming, but that’s a discussion for another day) and all of that is unavailable on the Xbox One when game streaming is in use. This includes the TV pass-through which is available on the Xbox One. It kind of makes this a feature that is pretty much unusable for people that have connected the Xbox One as the center of the TV Hub.

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  • boeush - Thursday, August 27, 2015 - link

    When had MS *ever* released a new product version (whether OS or not) that wasn't half-baked? This is SOP for MS. The rule of thumb with MS products has always been, and continues to be: unless you want to bleed on the bleeding edge, wait for SP1 before installing.
  • Fiernaq - Wednesday, August 26, 2015 - link

    The ability to scroll inactive windows is awesome. I currently use a third party tool to gain that functionality called X Mouse Button Control. There's one other feature I use that program for, though, and if that feature is also included in Windows 10 then I can finally drop that program (as nice as it is) from my list of "install this on every computer I ever use" apps. That other feature is desktop icon placement saving/loading with keyboard shortcut. Does anyone know if this feature has made it into Windows 10 yet?
  • thekdub - Wednesday, August 26, 2015 - link

    I like it. I upgraded from Win 7 Ultimate on a 5 y/o HP laptop as a sort of test platform before making the jump on my gaming desktop that currently has 8.1 Pro installed. No issues with the upgrade, definitely a lot easier than reinstalling Win 7 on a new SSD which was an absolute nightmare. Boot time is actually faster on the laptop, and it feels quicker overall despite having mostly older/slower hardware (though it does have a technically faster 850 EVO vs the 840 EVO in the desktop). I barely had any driver issues with the upgrade despite the outdated hardware, and even the otherwise terrible Radeon mobile drivers work like a charm without having to resort to Leshcat drivers. The UI looks cleaner and it's a pretty easy transition from 7 as far as usability. Most things are where you'd expect them to be and it's not hard to figure out the rest.

    I did end up installing Classic Shell as I still prefer how it organizes the start menu, although I do really like the ability to add and customize live tiles with the new start menu (however, they do take up more space than I'd like and it's quite ugly when you only have 3-4 tiles). I also had to use Classic Shell to match the color of my start menu and taskbar to my desktop, as the default options end up being pretty ugly outside of grey or black.

    With that being said, I'll wait till DX12 rolls out before I upgrade my desktop. I've been pretty happy with 8.1 once I installed Classic Shell and until games start using DX12 I see no real reason to upgrade right now. I anticipate the transition will be even easier with hardware that actually has Win 10 drivers available.
  • mrbofus - Wednesday, August 26, 2015 - link

    "With this release, the system now supports pen input for any text field. Let me say this again. Any text field now supports pen input."

    Wow, I would have assumed this was the case back with Windows 7, or at least 8. Crazy.
  • mrbofus - Wednesday, August 26, 2015 - link

    Great write-up, Brett! I love all the topics you cover in-depth! Excellent work.
  • HerveS94 - Wednesday, August 26, 2015 - link

    edge has so much potential, but so it has a long way to go before it takes over google chrome in terms of features etc.
  • Ratman6161 - Wednesday, August 26, 2015 - link

    Well its very sad that this turned into an I hate Microsoft rant/pissing contest practically with the first comment. What a waste of time. Windows 10 is not mandatory for anybody so if you don't like it and don't want it, then don't use it. Stick with whatever version you have if you want to or go download your favorite Linux distro if you don't want to use Windows at all.

    Or if you want to talk about it, please try to have an intelligent discussion. This is rapidly turning into the sort of mutual flame war that inevitably causes me to give up on web sites...or at least disregard their comments section.
  • Oxford Guy - Wednesday, August 26, 2015 - link

    "If you don't like Stalin killing people then don't live in Russia!"

    "If you don't like people running over grandmothers for fun with their cars then move out of that neighborhood!"

    "And, no one needs to use Windows once Windows 7 is no longer updated with security updates rather than hidden telemetry."
  • dmacfour - Friday, August 28, 2015 - link

    What an idiotic comparison.

    Nobody chooses to live in a authoritarian nation. You can't just opt out of it and choose a new country.

    Windows is a product that you choose to buy. They are legally mandated to serve you or your best interests. If you don't like it, use a competitor's OS, it's as simple as that.
  • mrbofus - Wednesday, August 26, 2015 - link

    "they are also scalable and can work on small phones, all the way up to large desktop devices, with different layouts depending on"

    On the "Mail, Calendar, and People" page, the last sentence of the second paragraph just cuts off mid-sentence.

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