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The big upgrade in graphics for Carrizo is that the maximum number of compute units for a 15W mobile APU moves up from six (384 SPs) to eight (512 SPs), affording a 33% potential improvement. This means that the high end A10 Carrizo mobile APUs will align with the A10 Kaveri desktop APUs, although the desktop APUs will use 6x the power. Carrizo also moves to AMD’s third generation of Graphics Core Next, meaning GCN 1.2 and similar to Tonga based retail graphics cards (the R9 285).

This gives DirectX 12 support, but one of AMD’s aims with Carrizo is full HSA 1.0 support. Earlier this year when AMD first released proper Carrizo details, we were told that Carrizo will support the full HSA 1.0 draft as it currently stands as it has not been ratified, and they will not push back the launch of Carrizo until that happens. So there is a chance that Carrizo will not be certified has a fully HSA 1.0 compliant APU, but very few people are predicting major changes to the specification at this point before ratification that requires hardware adjustments.

The difference between Kaveri’s ‘HSA Ready’ and Carrizo’s ‘HSA Final’ nomenclature comes down to one main feature – context switching. Kaveri can do everything Carrizo can do, apart from this. Context switching allows the HSA device to switch between work asynchronously while it waits on the other part that needs to finish. I would imagine that if Kaveri came across work that required this, it would sit there idle waiting for work to finish before continuing, which means that Carrizo would be faster in this regard.

One of the key parts of HSA is pointer translation, allowing both the CPU and GPU to access the same memory despite their different interpretations of how the memory in the system is configured. One of the features on Carrizo will be the use of address translation caches inside the GPU, essentially keeping a record of which address points to which data and when an address is in a lower cache, that data can be accessed quicker. These ATC L1/L2 caches will be inside the compute units themselves as well as the GPU memory controller and an overriding ATC L2 beyond the regular L2 per compute unit.

Use of GCN 1.2 means that AMD can use their latest color compression algorithms with little effort – it takes a little more die area to implement (of which Excavator has more to play with than Kaveri), but affords performance improvements particularly in gaming. The texture data is stored losslessly to maintain visual fidelity, and move between graphics cores in this compressed state.

In yet more effort to suction power out of the system, the GPU will have its own dedicated voltage plane as part of the system, rather than a separate voltage island requiring its own power delivery mechanism as before. AMD’s latest numbers on the improvements here only date back to June 2013 via internal simulations, rather than an actual direct comparison.

All the performance metrics rolled in, and AMD is quoting a 65% performance improvement at 15W compared to Kaveri. The adjustment in design is allowing higher frequency for the same power, combined with the additional compute units and other enhancements for the overall score. At 35W the gain is less pronounced, but more akin to regular generational improvements anyway. What we see at 35W is what we would normally expect, and it pales in comparison to the 15W numbers.

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  • Cloakstar - Wednesday, June 3, 2015 - link

    These scores definitely need validation. If true, Carrizo is a massive win.
    The FX 8800P graphic shows a 3DMark 11 score of nearly 2000 at 15W, and 2700+ at 35W.
    The A10-7850k has a score of 2403 at 95W.
    http://www.anandtech.com/show/7677/amd-kaveri-revi...
  • azazel1024 - Wednesday, June 3, 2015 - link

    I didn't realize AMD's processors were so terrible at video playback. My 2 year old (pushing 3 now) Ivy Bridge i5-3317u equipped HP Envy 4t can manage roughly 6hrs of video playback of a 1080p h.264 12Mbps source and it only has about a 45whr battery in it. With a higher TDP chip and lots of "not power saving" features.
  • creed3020 - Wednesday, June 3, 2015 - link

    I am definitely in the market for one of these laptops to replace two older laptops in the house with one new one. If it had Carrizo for the hear I would be mighty happy to support AMD over Intel for this round, as the improvements here sound very much adequate for the system I am looking for.

    The ideal system would be something like the HP Spectre x360 for around $750.
  • michal1980 - Wednesday, June 3, 2015 - link

    AMDs problem start with the 1st slide. "more people by notebooks priced between $400 and 700 than at any other price. Almost 2 out of every 5 notbooks sold is in that segment."

    umm, 3 out of 5 notebooks is sold outside of the 400-700 dollar price. Thats greater then 2 out of 5.

    AMD fails math. Fails in general.
  • silverblue - Wednesday, June 3, 2015 - link

    No. 3 out of 5 notebooks are either sold below $400, or above $700, and out of those two disparate segments, neither is as large as the $400 - $700 segment.

    There isn't a "math" fail here.
  • takeship - Wednesday, June 3, 2015 - link

    The bigger issue is that AMD is admitting they are so uncompetitive in the market that it doesn't make business sense to chase at least 60% of consumers (and ignoring business costumers completely). And realistically, that 400-700 market is really more like a 550-700 market, as 400-500 is close enough to base iPad Air 2/premium Android tab pricing that you lose a lot of sales that direction.
  • silverblue - Wednesday, June 3, 2015 - link

    Surely TrustZone is a sign that they want business customers? Additionally, being able to work on the battery all day is a good thing.
  • Gigaplex - Thursday, June 4, 2015 - link

    Read closer. Their "all day battery" claim is being able to idle for 8 hours. You won't get a full work day out of that.
  • silverblue - Friday, June 5, 2015 - link

    If you class H264 1080p video as idle, sure. My fault for saying "work" though, however if all you're doing is light stuff, you won't be far off.
  • FlushedBubblyJock - Wednesday, June 10, 2015 - link

    for amd's sake we'll class idle as full screen video playback and 1.5 hours as all day, and no wifi bluetooth or dvd player active as full multimedia active -
    there, now look, you were correct ! your ego is in tact, you're never wrong

    Calgon take me away

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